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From: "Dave Grey" <grey@is*.ca*>
To: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>, <Jsuw@ao*.co*>, <JJ@gu*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>,
     , ,
    
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:28:56 -0700
For what it is worth I am not a member of the WKPP/GUE crowd.I do have a
*cyber* membership  to allow me to access the GUE forum etc.
I do not despise George Irvine and I think that the people that have this so
called problem with Irvine would have a problem with any truth they did not
want to hear.
My only beef with the WKPP/GUE crowd is where were you when I first started
diving??
I kinda gotta shuffle my feet a little here,...but the above statement
includes you,Cobb.
Later,





From: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
To: <Jsuw@ao*.co*>; <JJ@gu*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>;
<techdiver@aq*.co*>; <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000


> In a message dated 7/9/00 10:36:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jsuw writes:
>
> > It's clear you have never met or talked with JJ, or even seen many of
his
> > responses to antagonistic posts if you acuse him of not treating people
> > kindly.   It can not be based on your personal experience.  Truly, the
> > conference attendees of OzTek 2000 are missing out because JJ will not
be
> > appearing as planned.
>
> I didn't say JJ treats people unkindly.  I simply stated that, by
associating
> with GI
> and not denouncing GI's abusiveness, JJ de facto condones and encourages
it.
> That
> is to say that JJ is not directly abusive, but nevertheless is so
indirectly
> by
> association.
>
> These are the facts.  Just about everyone in the dive industry other than
the
> WKPP/GUE crowd utterly despises GI, so it should come as no surprise to JJ
> that,
> even though he's not a nasty person, he's going to be treated as if he
were
> as long
> as he stands by silently letting his buddy GI behave like a jerk.
>
>
>

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