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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@mc*.co*>,
     "David Blundell" ,
    
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:32:40 -0400
Jess, I can answer that - he is an idiot .


>David,
>Let me just say you are either very naive or an
idiot; probably both.  Not
>about TDI?  You obviously don't know Gilliam very
well.  Things got rushed?
>You gotta be kidding me.  If it had been about things
getting rushed, they
>could have dropped the "Spare Air" booth or the
"Scuda" booth.  Leaving JJ,
>GUE and the WKPP out of a tech show kind of defeats
the point of having a
>tech show, now doesn't it?
>
>If stories is what you want, Gilliam is your man.  If
you want to learn
>about how to tech dive, well, you really are going to
be wasting your time
>and money.
>
>Trout
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Blundell
[mailto:daveblundell@op*.co*.au*]
>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:35 AM
>> To: toddleonard@mi*.co*
>> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com
>> Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
>>
>>
>> Todd,
>>
>> I appreciate your comments.
>>
>> It would have been great to hear from JJ.
>>
>> Unlike that other dickhead.
>>
>> As far as we are all concerned, and I know Richard
is doing something that
>> no-one else will, is that a show is being put
together for the
>> divers in Aust.
>>
>> Shit happens, this ain't about TDI or who ever, and
frankly we
>> couldn't give a
>> stuff.
>>
>> Sure maybe things could have been done differently,
but I guess
>> when you've
>> got a million things to do and organize at the last
minute
>> sometimes things
>> get rushed.
>>
>> Richard is a nice guy and friendly at that.  We go
to these shows to see
>> people like JJ and others, but it ain't the end of
the world if it doesn't
>> work out.  We are not interested in politics and
bullshit.  Just stories.
>>
>> Who cares if people disagree on things, isn't that
a democracy
>> about,. having
>> the right to make your own choice.
>>
>> We (divers) would like these shows to continue, so
more of you
>> guys can come
>> here.  Come to Australia to have fun, to see a
beautiful country,
>> one the size
>> of the U.S but with only @ 20 million people in it.
A contrast
>> to your home.,
>> tell us your stories, your experiences and we share
ours.
>>
>> Isn't that what this is all about.????????
>>
>> Leave all the bullshit and mudslinging to the
telephones.
>>
>> That's all us divers here want.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> Todd Leonard wrote:
>>
>> > David, it's a bad trade... With JJ, you would
have had the
>> opportunity to
>> > hear about some truly remarkable diving, and
learn about the impeccable
>> > technique enabling that diving which can be
applied to the
>> benefit of all.
>> >  By blocking him, well, now we all have the
opportunity to hear
>> and learn
>> > about the "industry" yet again.  Yawn.  Even if
one were to overlook the
>> > apparent dishonesty involved in this little
episode, what conclusions
>> > should be drawn about those who knowingly opt for
such a facade?
>> >
>> > What will be learned from BG's "stories"?  Real
diving is _so_ much more
>> > interesting than bombastic tales of foolish near
misses.
>> >
>> > Hint: bring lots of beer to the conference --
it's always best
>> to conceal
>> > the true source of one's stupor.
>> >
>> > - Todd
>> >
>> > --- David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
wrote:
>> > > Thank you for your comments  Scott.
>> > >
>> > > I didn't organize the show, I just pay my money
to go.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway BG has been around and can tell some
stories,
>> regardless of what
>> > > some may thinks.
>> > >
>> > > Sure a lot of people would have liked to seen
JJ, but he is not coming
>> > > unfortunately this time.
>> > >
>> > > like I've said time and time again we would
like to see him.
>> Take it up
>> > > with
>> > > TDI if you have a problem with them.  Not us,
we just wanna
>> see a show.
>> > >
>> > > I went to the US, 31 hrs of travelling to see a
show etc.
>> > >
>> > > Melbourne, 30 mins from my home.  So as you can
see it is much cheaper
>> > > for me to stay here and support the shows here.
>> > >
>> > > I hope that all the bullshit stops, the flaming
and so on.
>> > >
>> > > The welcome from the divers here is always open
to those overseas.
>> > >
>> > > If I organized a show (heaven forbid)  then
maybe different people
>> > > could, would and might come.  Who knows.
>> > >
>> > > Richard has taken the time and effort to do it
when no-one else would.
>> > > So we
>> > > want to support him, because otherwise there
would be no
>> show.  Simple.
>> > >
>> > > Is that unreasonable?
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Dave.
>> >
>> >
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