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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:31:05 +1000
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: bdi@wh*.ne*
CC: trey@ne*.co*, Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aq*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Billy,

Good idea.

Create your own list  and Stroke Bash all you like.

Leave the rest of the people who enjoy diving alone.

As always,

regards

Dave.

bdi@wh*.ne* wrote:

> At 08:26  2/07/00 , Trey wrote:
> >Jarrod, is it true the  organizer of Oztec 2000 is the local head of TDI? Is
> >it true that he is a deep air fan? Is it also true that he was on the boat
> >when Rob Palmer died?
> >Is it true that this Oztec had Batman as its star speaker last year, and
> >that this year they have his wannabe little brother and a list of strokes
> >that would bring tears of laughter to an American audience?
> >
> >JJ, sounds like you got lucky. Unfortunately , anyone who wanted the real
> >deal got fucked, but then if anyone thought they were going to get any
> >different out of TDI, well then they need to see PT Barnum.
>
> Trey, I forwarded JJ's note to the Australian cave diving list
> and got a fairly rapid response from the head of TDI Australia
> (organisers of OzTec 2000). Well, a couple of responses actually.
> One public, and one private one.
>
> In his public response, the local TDI head wrote:
>
>  > "Tell you what Billy, you give the $2500 to get them here and
>  > I will help you organise another show. Aside from that, it is
>  > none of your business."
>
> So he won't take JJ & Robert's money but he'll take mine, and
> it's still none of my business. And JJ and Robert still aren't
> welcome.
>
> So here, publically, I'm offering the $2,500 for him to put
> Jarrod and Robert back on the programme and back in the show,
> under the previously agreed terms, if he hasn't managed to piss
> them off completely.
>
> But I don't think this is about money. I think that's a smoke-
> screen. JJ already offered him the money and still got refused.
> I think there's another agenda running here. When I asked the
> TDI guy how hard Guilliam was pulling his string, he got very
> excited. Even asked me to go round and visit him. I said that
> wasn't necessary 'cause I'd be quite happy to hear his confession
> by email.
>
> There's too much hubris round these people. I can't forget that
> when these same people had the opportunity to finally disassociate
> glamour and deep air diving when Rob Palmer killed himself, they
> lied instead.
>
> Anyway there's eight of us DIR divers in Sydney who regularly
> charter boats and dive together. If anyone in Sydney wants to
> bypass the bullshit and the run-around and go straight to the
> real stuff email me. We can arrange DIR-friendly training,
> equipment that isn't priced to make your nose bleed, sound deco
> advice,good fun diving with people who tell the truth. and,
> (as the t-shirt says):
>
>        no deep air no personal preference
>       no stuffed hose no bondage wings no
>       air bail-out no steel slings no dual
>       bladders no wrong deco no stroke mix
>         no tom no brett no bazza no rt
>               N O  S T R O K E S !!!
>
> Life's too short and there's too much ocean to dive for all
> the underhand stuff.
>
> rgrds        billyw
>
> >->>>From: Jarrod Jablonski <JJ@gu*.co*>
> > >>>To: Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au*
> > >>><Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au*>; quest@gu*.co* <quest@gu*.co*>
> > >>>Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 10:47 AM
> > >>>Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >This one is classic.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >They ask me six or more months ago to present and I committed to the
> > >date.
> > >>> >Leaving the country during prime exploration is not something I take
> > >>> >lightly and I pushed several other obligations away, kept the spot open
> > >>> >despite several good opportunities, and promised my girlfriend a trip
> >to
> > >>> >Australia.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >They had agreed to pay my way over or to have the company sponsor the
> > >event
> > >>> >and get a free booth. We agreed to the latter.
> > >>> >Then two weeks before departure they send me a mail that says we have
> > >>> >pulled your speaking spot because we no longer feel we can properly
> > >support
> > >>> >your presence. In essence the show is not doing well enough to let you
> > >have
> > >>> >a booth but we are too crowded to make a free space for you. Rather
> > >>> >oxymoronic. Of course none of this applied to any speakers other than
> > >>>myslef.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Feeling pretty certain what games where being played I then volunteered
> > >to
> > >>> >pay my own way, and asked about buying a booth. Their response. No
> > >>>thanks<G>
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Personally the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth but I am sure
> > >>> >that I can find a way to occupy the time with diving and now I have  a
> > >>> >better feel for the political games being played by people seemingly
> > >afraid
> > >>> >of information. However, I missed the opportunity to meet people
> > >interested
> > >>> >in diving outside of politics and I have an angry girlfriend. We plan
> >to
> > >>> >come over on our own in the near future for some DIR demonstrations.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Politics at its best.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Best,
> > >>> >JJ
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >At 07:47 AM 6/26/2000 +1100, Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au*
> > >wrote:
> > >>> >>Does any one have any idea why JJ and Robert are no longer coming to
> > >OzTek
> > >>> >>2000 in Melbourne next month.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>We were all looking forward to seeing and hearing from them both and
> > >now
> > >>> >>nothing...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
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> > >>> >
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> > >>Jarrod Jablonski
> > >>
> > >>President-
> > >>Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com
> > >>CEO Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com
> > >>VP Halcyon Manufacturing www.halcyon.net, www.browniedive.com,
> > >www.tankfill.com
> > >>
> > >>Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com
> > >>GUE is a non-profit educational, research, and exploratory organization
> > >>with hundreds of dedicated members around the world.
> > >>
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> > >>industry's most novel and robust diving equipment designed by many of
> > >>diving's most active explorers.
> > >>
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