At 06:31 5/07/00 , David Blundell wrote: >Billy, > >Good idea. > >Create your own list and Stroke Bash all you like. > >Leave the rest of the people who enjoy diving alone. Dave, this isn't about lists or diving or stroke bashing (except for the T-shirt). This is about who you can trust and whether TDI is jerking you around. rgrds billyw ps. Can I interest you in a t-shirt? >As always, > >regards > >Dave. > >bdi@wh*.ne* wrote: > > > At 08:26 2/07/00 , Trey wrote: > > >Jarrod, is it true the organizer of Oztec 2000 is the local head of TDI? Is > > >it true that he is a deep air fan? Is it also true that he was on the boat > > >when Rob Palmer died? > > >Is it true that this Oztec had Batman as its star speaker last year, and > > >that this year they have his wannabe little brother and a list of strokes > > >that would bring tears of laughter to an American audience? > > > > > >JJ, sounds like you got lucky. Unfortunately , anyone who wanted the real > > >deal got fucked, but then if anyone thought they were going to get any > > >different out of TDI, well then they need to see PT Barnum. > > > > Trey, I forwarded JJ's note to the Australian cave diving list > > and got a fairly rapid response from the head of TDI Australia > > (organisers of OzTec 2000). Well, a couple of responses actually. > > One public, and one private one. > > > > In his public response, the local TDI head wrote: > > > > > "Tell you what Billy, you give the $2500 to get them here and > > > I will help you organise another show. Aside from that, it is > > > none of your business." > > > > So he won't take JJ & Robert's money but he'll take mine, and > > it's still none of my business. And JJ and Robert still aren't > > welcome. > > > > So here, publically, I'm offering the $2,500 for him to put > > Jarrod and Robert back on the programme and back in the show, > > under the previously agreed terms, if he hasn't managed to piss > > them off completely. > > > > But I don't think this is about money. I think that's a smoke- > > screen. JJ already offered him the money and still got refused. > > I think there's another agenda running here. When I asked the > > TDI guy how hard Guilliam was pulling his string, he got very > > excited. Even asked me to go round and visit him. I said that > > wasn't necessary 'cause I'd be quite happy to hear his confession > > by email. > > > > There's too much hubris round these people. I can't forget that > > when these same people had the opportunity to finally disassociate > > glamour and deep air diving when Rob Palmer killed himself, they > > lied instead. > > > > Anyway there's eight of us DIR divers in Sydney who regularly > > charter boats and dive together. If anyone in Sydney wants to > > bypass the bullshit and the run-around and go straight to the > > real stuff email me. We can arrange DIR-friendly training, > > equipment that isn't priced to make your nose bleed, sound deco > > advice,good fun diving with people who tell the truth. and, > > (as the t-shirt says): > > > > no deep air no personal preference > > no stuffed hose no bondage wings no > > air bail-out no steel slings no dual > > bladders no wrong deco no stroke mix > > no tom no brett no bazza no rt > > N O S T R O K E S !!! > > > > Life's too short and there's too much ocean to dive for all > > the underhand stuff. > > > > rgrds billyw > > > > >->>>From: Jarrod Jablonski <JJ@gu*.co*> > > > >>>To: Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au* > > > >>><Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au*>; quest@gu*.co* <quest@gu*.co*> > > > >>>Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 10:47 AM > > > >>>Subject: Re: OzTek 2000 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> >This one is classic. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >They ask me six or more months ago to present and I committed to the > > > >date. > > > >>> >Leaving the country during prime exploration is not something I take > > > >>> >lightly and I pushed several other obligations away, kept the spot open > > > >>> >despite several good opportunities, and promised my girlfriend a trip > > >to > > > >>> >Australia. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >They had agreed to pay my way over or to have the company sponsor the > > > >event > > > >>> >and get a free booth. We agreed to the latter. > > > >>> >Then two weeks before departure they send me a mail that says we have > > > >>> >pulled your speaking spot because we no longer feel we can properly > > > >support > > > >>> >your presence. In essence the show is not doing well enough to let you > > > >have > > > >>> >a booth but we are too crowded to make a free space for you. Rather > > > >>> >oxymoronic. Of course none of this applied to any speakers other than > > > >>>myslef. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Feeling pretty certain what games where being played I then volunteered > > > >to > > > >>> >pay my own way, and asked about buying a booth. Their response. No > > > >>>thanks<G> > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Personally the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth but I am sure > > > >>> >that I can find a way to occupy the time with diving and now I have a > > > >>> >better feel for the political games being played by people seemingly > > > >afraid > > > >>> >of information. However, I missed the opportunity to meet people > > > >interested > > > >>> >in diving outside of politics and I have an angry girlfriend. We plan > > >to > > > >>> >come over on our own in the near future for some DIR demonstrations. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Politics at its best. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Best, > > > >>> >JJ > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> >At 07:47 AM 6/26/2000 +1100, Gawain.Lynch@fe*.co*.au* > > > >wrote: > > > >>> >>Does any one have any idea why JJ and Robert are no longer coming to > > > >OzTek > > > >>> >>2000 in Melbourne next month. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >>We were all looking forward to seeing and hearing from them both and > > > >now > > > >>> >>nothing... > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > > > >>> >>For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Jarrod Jablonski > > > >>> > > > > >>> >President- > > > >>> >Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com > > > >>> >CEO Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com > > > >>> >VP Halcyon Manufacturing www.halcyon.net, www.browniedive.com, > > > >>>www.tankfill.com > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com > > > >>> >GUE is a non-profit educational, research, and exploratory organization > > > >>> >with hundreds of dedicated members around the world. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com > > > >>> >Extreme Exposure and Halcyon manufacturing produce some of the scuba > > > >>> >industry's most novel and robust diving equipment designed by many of > > > >>> >diving's most active explorers. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > > > >>> >For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* > > > >> > > > >>Jarrod Jablonski > > > >> > > > >>President- > > > >>Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com > > > >>CEO Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com > > > >>VP Halcyon Manufacturing www.halcyon.net, www.browniedive.com, > > > >www.tankfill.com > > > >> > > > >>Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com > > > >>GUE is a non-profit educational, research, and exploratory organization > > > >>with hundreds of dedicated members around the world. > > > >> > > > >>Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com > > > >>Extreme Exposure and Halcyon manufacturing produce some of the scuba > > > >>industry's most novel and robust diving equipment designed by many of > > > >>diving's most active explorers. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aq*.co*'. > > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aq*.co*'. > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aq*.co*'. > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aq*.co*'.
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