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No, this guy is a local . The "cave community" is loaded with these guys. They have been fighting the WKPP as long as it has existed, no matter who was running it, no mater what the story. This is different than ath yo ar seign on techdiver. We make no attempt to convince anyone in cave diving other than new people - the idiots are idiots and will always be idiots until they die or quit. They are not our target audience ( under the teach a pig to sing rule ). Mcinnis, Don wrote: > > Is "jrivers" another pseudonym for Mikey Blank, MD? The postings sound > hauntingly familiar... I guess every list has to have its stooge. > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: jrivers@ta*.rr*.co* [mailto:jrivers@ta*.rr*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:38 AM > To: trey@ne*.co*; jrivers@ta*.rr*.co*; cavers@cavers.com > Subject: Re: Bringing a Gun to Knife Fight > > When it comes to your so called sport, you can be the best. But you still > don't > have a clue. I have met Lloyd once, I have met Dustin once, and I have > bought > from JJ's shop. > > You continually avoid my comments about you and your klan wanting to control > > the world's cave systems, diving community, and diving gear, by replying in > your posts how good you are nobody has done what we have done. > > As you stated in an earlier email, do you think I give a shit about your > accomplishments. All I asked was for you to leave what you call the > shitholes > alone. > > You attempt to reconstruct the truth about this by utilizing a vocabulary > that > does not impress those except your good northern redneck friends. In most > cases > the attempts to post are blundered by your spelling and grammatical errors. > > You continue to call Jim Rivers a fake, you can have me unsubscribed, but it > is > you who feel threatened, who states they don't give a shit about me or what > I > think, and then following that line is a 300 word essay, what is with the > continued use of the word gooberized,(north florida slang) do you have some > Andy Griffith fetish? > > Your attempt to reconstruct the truth again does not work, I have never bad > mouth GUI, I am not in the business, and I own Halcyon gear, I dive DIR, I > am > impressed with what the WKPP has accomplished as a team. You keep avoiding > the > issue, you can't play by the rules, Lit'l Trey wants to take his ball and go > > home. > > As far as faking these post, you need to understand Jim Rivers is here to > stay, > whether or not he is subscribed to the list with one or several accounts > from > several ISPs he is here to "question authority" > > And by default the other agencies are what they are? Another comment that > directly shows you and people like you are in it for the money, you put on > this > front of placing the bad attention on others and let's talk about my > accomplishments. > > How have you proved me a fraud and a liar? How have you proved anytihng > except > your diving accomplishments? And when I state I am done with this list, it > in > way means done with you? > > > We just proved you a fraud and a liar. The thing about you that we all > > see is that you have little or no real understanding or factual picture > > of anything to do with our organiztion, and every time you open your > > misinformed mouth or make one of your mindless threats, we are all > > seeing how far off of reality you really are. You forget how may have > > come before you with the same agenda, and none of them has done anything > > but bring retribution on those they represent. > > > > So far, Fake One, you have not yet had one single piece of information > > or inuendo that was on the money ( forget the psycotic shit, I am > > talking about the clear missing of the whole boat that comes out in > > every one of your tirades ) . There is no reason for us to tell you what > > the truth really is, but it is interesting to see your gooberized > > version. Seeing your version tells us where the bullshit is coming from, > > and those people will be rewarded by us in kind - we can see clearly who > > they are. > > > > I recognize each little comment by you from its original source. For > > instance, LLoyd Bailey is the one who came up with the "communist". > > Dustin Cleezy is the one who came up with the lazer scope reference. > > Some of the other references are more widespread misconceptions , so are > > harder to pin down. > > > > The fact is we all know that LLoyd, Dustin, and Ginnie Springs are sore > > about Jablonski having a dive shop in High Springs that deals all the > > good stuff, and ANYONE can sure understand that. Geez, it does not take > > a rocket scientist, or even a "venture capitalist" to see that if one > > had the choice of going to a shop full of top divers and pros who had > > the best gear avaiable and know how to use it , or to Dustin's little > > place or LLoyds garage , or Ginnie , there is not much of a decison to > > make there. > > > > Sure, we all know that everyone in the "business" is sore that Halcyon > > can manufacture it own stuff in its Ft Lauderdale factory to the exact > > specifications of the best dive team in the world, and the others can > > not , and that EE can make what we use as well, and sell all of it > > cheaper that the bullshit out there that all of you promote , and that > > GUE is the eltite training organiztion and the rest are what they are by > > default, but that is no reason to make up a fake account and try to tell > > us that these people are "bad" for playiong the game so well and finally > > doing what needed to be done in training, diving, gear, and advice. > > > > Look, "Jim", you and the whole "community" can get out your kneepads and > > blow me - I have been doing this for too long , too well, and with too > > much sucess for you strokes to have any effect on anything I do. All of > > you have tried your little hearts out, and here I still am , with more > > on my plate than ever, and seeing more of what I want to see happening > > in diving. > > > > Go have another Bill Main Lobster ( that is where some of this shit came > > from as well, and his "friends" will not forget it ), and warm up those > > kneepads. Tell your pals to expect the best from me. > > > > Liar and a fraud - you are indeed "done" with this list. > > > > > > jrivers@ta*.rr*.co* wrote: > > > > > > Well boys and girls it seems that the GrandDragon did really have me > > > unsubscribed. I am awaiting a response from his sidekick Kato the mail > > > administrator to find out why. > > > > > > It seems that when the heat is in their own kitchen they turn it off as > oppose > > > to facing it. I am done with this list. However the games have just > begun. > > > > > > Let's see Mr. Mail Admin, I think you need to address issues with your > list > > > server..... http://www.orbs.org > > > > > > more kung fu to come..................... > > > >
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