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From: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: "'trey@ne*.co*'" <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: "'cavers@cavers.com'" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: RE: The Misrepresentations of the USDCT
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:32:09 -0500
If he didn't badmouth you guys then he would only have himself to blame.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 11:28 AM
To: Mcinnis, Don
Cc: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: The Misrepresentations of the USDCT


I do not know why this jerk is so intent on badmouthing the work of the
WKPP - he made his bet and lost.


Mcinnis, Don wrote:
> 
> But the question is: how many goats did he really get roped in that 90
days?
> 
> Don
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:01 AM
> To: cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: The Misrepresentations of the USDCT
> 
> I am getting real sick of Bill Stone's bullshit. The fact is he
> pretended to want to do a "joint" project and then lied to all of us and
> the State, screwed us over, and got what he deserved. Nobody in the US
> cave diving community but a couple of the worst bottom feeding strokes
> ended up diving with him. He had to get people from outside who do not
> even own a drysuit.
> 
>    His radio locatoin method, also used by us in some places, worked
> quite well. He was able to follow our map and locate his beacons, and
> did collect a zillion datapoints with his boy Fred Wefer working on
> using MY map to correlate these points into a map, but unfortunately,
> like so many others surrounding Stone, Wefer died before the job got
> done.
> 
>    Our Geolgist, Todd Kincaid, has used Stone's surface points to
> correct our map data, and I have located Stone's beacons underground and
> rectified them with my map. We now do not have to do any more of that
> ourselves.
> 
>    In the meantime, I put out a map prior to Stone's failed project on
> our web site and gave data for it that were merely a reguritation of
> Stone's own data from his first project, and added some of my own, but
> showed none of the side tunnels nor anywhere near Chrokee sink, and
> purposeely allowed a tranposition error to persist in that map which
> preventted them from finding M Tunnel - a spectacular spring the size of
> the main cave which goes near Cherokee itself. That map is skewed all
> over the place by Stone's data, and if you plot it , it comes out way
> west of the cave. I have the real map, and will put it out at the end of
> June.
> 
>    Stone is trying to say the the bee line between the sinks is the
> distance - he needs to do a cave dive some time, and while I routinely
> dive well past that, his strokes did not even get there in their heyday,
> and yet they claimed distances much further- Stone , in his usual lying
> manner, claimed that they "routinely did distances that WKPP did as
> heroes". I do it in my fucking sleep. His guys never got to our second
> scooter staging point in 90 days of trying their best.
> 
>     Stone did not fool anyone with any of this . The State realizes that
> this was a fiasco, and everyone knows that we held out and that he
> followed our map and that his looks just like mine and just like
> Kincaid's 3-D map. Everyone knows that radio location is old hat, and
> everyone knows that we have it as well, but thanks to Stone, I do not
> have to do it for that part of the cave.
> 
>     This guy is a patheict dillatante with no regard for human life. The
> fact is that everyone knows that the WKPP can pull these dives off in
> one day with no problems, and yet he had to try to prove that he knew
> better than me , and yet could not pull off jack shit in 90 days - and
> the pricetag was over 1 mil and a human life - this guy is the bottom of
> the scumbag barrel and needs to be treated that way, just like I teated
> him from day one. And I was right, and I will continue to explore that
> cave and the others without his stupid ass getting in the way ever
> again. He is done in this game, and a loser .

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