But the question is: how many goats did he really get roped in that 90 days? Don -----Original Message----- From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:01 AM To: cavers@cavers.com Subject: The Misrepresentations of the USDCT I am getting real sick of Bill Stone's bullshit. The fact is he pretended to want to do a "joint" project and then lied to all of us and the State, screwed us over, and got what he deserved. Nobody in the US cave diving community but a couple of the worst bottom feeding strokes ended up diving with him. He had to get people from outside who do not even own a drysuit. His radio locatoin method, also used by us in some places, worked quite well. He was able to follow our map and locate his beacons, and did collect a zillion datapoints with his boy Fred Wefer working on using MY map to correlate these points into a map, but unfortunately, like so many others surrounding Stone, Wefer died before the job got done. Our Geolgist, Todd Kincaid, has used Stone's surface points to correct our map data, and I have located Stone's beacons underground and rectified them with my map. We now do not have to do any more of that ourselves. In the meantime, I put out a map prior to Stone's failed project on our web site and gave data for it that were merely a reguritation of Stone's own data from his first project, and added some of my own, but showed none of the side tunnels nor anywhere near Chrokee sink, and purposeely allowed a tranposition error to persist in that map which preventted them from finding M Tunnel - a spectacular spring the size of the main cave which goes near Cherokee itself. That map is skewed all over the place by Stone's data, and if you plot it , it comes out way west of the cave. I have the real map, and will put it out at the end of June. Stone is trying to say the the bee line between the sinks is the distance - he needs to do a cave dive some time, and while I routinely dive well past that, his strokes did not even get there in their heyday, and yet they claimed distances much further- Stone , in his usual lying manner, claimed that they "routinely did distances that WKPP did as heroes". I do it in my fucking sleep. His guys never got to our second scooter staging point in 90 days of trying their best. Stone did not fool anyone with any of this . The State realizes that this was a fiasco, and everyone knows that we held out and that he followed our map and that his looks just like mine and just like Kincaid's 3-D map. Everyone knows that radio location is old hat, and everyone knows that we have it as well, but thanks to Stone, I do not have to do it for that part of the cave. This guy is a patheict dillatante with no regard for human life. The fact is that everyone knows that the WKPP can pull these dives off in one day with no problems, and yet he had to try to prove that he knew better than me , and yet could not pull off jack shit in 90 days - and the pricetag was over 1 mil and a human life - this guy is the bottom of the scumbag barrel and needs to be treated that way, just like I teated him from day one. And I was right, and I will continue to explore that cave and the others without his stupid ass getting in the way ever again. He is done in this game, and a loser .
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