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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:41:55 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Jason Weisacosky <hypoxic@tr*.mi*.or*>
CC: "Erik C. Schmidt" <cavedivr@uf*.ed*>, Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>,
     Jim Cobb , cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
Jason, nobody dives doubles in those places, so Disler is full of shit
right out of the gate , and diving a bullshit set of doubles makes it
even dumber. I am calling bullshit on that manifold and anyone who uses
it. Why not bring a pizza oven so he can have a nice pie for dinner?

You will not find that manifold in the hands of anyone but a stroke.

Jason Weisacosky wrote:
> 
> a person will not get a set of standard doubles with a manifold in some
> of the places Jeff dives.  This, I can guarantee.  personally, i draw
> the line with that type of caving/diving combination as squirming
> through miles (in *and* out) of tight, muddy/rocky, bullshit dragging
> lights, drinking water,  150'+ of rope, carabiners, boots, first aid
> stuff, food (at times), etc., to just get to a muddy looking sump is not
> appealing to me.  oh shit, that doesn't even include the diving gear.
> lights, drysuit, fins, masks, reels, bc's, and "a standard set of
> doubles with manifold".....yeah, right.
> 
> "Erik C. Schmidt" wrote:
> >
> > Try helping the WKPP at a Big Dismal dive sometime.  Ledges?  Rapelling?
> > Logistical nightmares?  Not for these guys.  Despite the logistics, all
dives are
> > conducted with 'normal' cave diving equipment - including a standard set of
> > doubles with manifold.
> >
> > Jeff Disler wrote:
> >
> > > Vertical shafts that have to rappeled or climbed, where the dive gear has
> > > to be lowered or lifted.
> > > Exposed ledges that must be traversed or abseiled with dive gear suspended
> > > by tyrolean and/or belayed, so as to not have a tank go careening down a
> > > canyon.
> > >
> > > Caves with these logistical nightmares have to be dived with less than
> > > desirable equipment configurations for exploration to continue.


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