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From: "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>
To: jrivers@ta*.rr*.co*, mikebruic@di*.co*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 06:25:13 PDT
i think the bulb alone is $100+.  these are very similar to the metal 
halides i put on my fish tank.  i pay $130 for those.  then you need a 
ballast.  there is a significant increase in cost beyond a standard light.


>From: jrivers@ta*.rr*.co*
>To: mikebruic@di*.co*, cavers@cavers.com
>Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:06:03 US/Eastern
>
>You are one to talk about proper business practices. And not that I would 
>use
>the MLS light. I wonder what the mark up is on an HID?
>
>
>Things are not as they seem.
>
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>
>Trey, are you talking about when Dive Rite stiffed all their suppliers with
>a huge outstanding debt, filed for bankruptcy, then opened under "Lamar
>Tech" the same day? Yea, that was a real class act by some really classy
>people.
>
>Bruic
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
>Cc: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 
>'Chris
>Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>; <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
><cavers@cavers.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:32 AM
>Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>
>
> > Dell, back to the personal attacks that you accuse everyone else of?
> > More hypocrisy from the usual people - the good ole boy dumb red necks.
> >
> > Anyone stupid enough to buy that ridiculous MLS light deserves to pay
> > $30 for a $4 test tube head, in my opinion. More sub optimal bullshit
> > gear from the dumb red necks with the big mouths, once again.
> >
> > You want to talk about "class acts"? Let's talk about dive rite and its
> > relationship with Leonard Marks and why. How about that?
> >
> > Dell Motes wrote:
> > >
> > > Now I'm a moron ?
> > > Your a real class act, Bruic.
> > > You need to go back to scamming college girls into your porn 
>"calendar".
> > > Yep, a real class guy.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
> > > To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; paul.r.harris@te*.ne*
> > > <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
> > > cmilz@Mi*.ED* <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
> > > Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
> > > <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
> > >
> > > >Yea, that is correct, she charged a dollar more for the precision 
>bore
> > > >glass, now were at $4.00 a tube. "Optically correct"??? What kind of
>bull
> > > >shit is this, I don't use them to read with you moron, and it sure as
>hell
> > > >doesn't justify the price reaming your giving your customers on this.
> > > >
> > > >Bruic
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> > > >To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>;
> > > 'Chris
> > > >Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
> > > >Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:18 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Sure Mike, the ones you showed us were not precision bore glass,
>flame
> > > >> polished or optically correct. They didn't meet our specs.
> > > >> You get what you pay for.
> > > >> ta,ta
> > > >> Dell Motes
> > > >> Dive Rite
> > > >> 117 W.Washington St.
> > > >> Lake City, Florida 32055
> > > >> www.dive-rite.com
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
> > > >> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; paul.r.harris@te*.ne*
> > > >> <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
> > > >> cmilz@Mi*.ED* <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
> > > >> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
>cavers@cavers.com
> > > >> <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:16 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >Dell, can you please explain to "all" members of this list why a
>test
> > > >tube
> > > >> >from Dive Right cost around $30.00, when I showed you guys where 
>to
>get
> > > >> them
> > > >> >custom made for less than $3.00 ea.  That's one hell of a mark-up 
>if
>you
> > > >> ask
> > > >> >me.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Bruic
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> > > >> >To: <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' 
><ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
> > > >> ><cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
> > > >> >Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > >> >Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Depending on the test tube light design, there are a few ways to
> > > >prevent
> > > >> >> lens loss.
> > > >> >> First, don't lubricate the o-rings, simply wet them (very 
>lightly)
> > > when
> > > >> >> installing the lens. Lubrication makes them way too easy to pop
>off
> > > >when
> > > >> >> hot, the pressure pushes them right of the end. The slight
>moisture
> > > >will
> > > >> >dry
> > > >> >> quickly and never be seen again.
> > > >> >> Relieving the pressure while pressing the lens in place can be
>done in
> > > >a
> > > >> >> couple of ways. If it has an easily loosened compression type
>sealing
> > > >> >gland
> > > >> >> on the cord, just back off the nut (not the gland itself, use 
>two
> > > >> >wrenches)
> > > >> >> and wiggle the cord. This will allow air to escape out around 
>the
>cord
> > > >> >while
> > > >> >> the lens is being pushed on. Once the lens is in place, 
>re-tighten
>the
> > > >> nut
> > > >> >> on the gland. If the gland is not accessible, (or easily
>loosened),
> > > you
> > > >> >can
> > > >> >> "vacuum seal" the lens in place. Place the head on a flat 
>surface
>and
> > > >> push
> > > >> >> the lens on till it loosely touches the first o-ring. Now turn 
>the
> > > >light
> > > >> >on
> > > >> >> for a few minutes. This will heat the lens and the head at the
>same
> > > >time.
> > > >> >> Once it is nice and warm, turn the light off and grasp the lens
>with a
> > > >> >towel
> > > >> >> (or something of that nature) and push the lens in place. Once 
>the
> > > >whole
> > > >> >> assembly cools, it will be in a vacuum state. Naturally, the 
>head
> > > >> material
> > > >> >> needs to be such that it can be burned for a short time out of 
>the
> > > >water
> > > >> >for
> > > >> >> this "vacuum" method.
> > > >> >> Aluminum and Delrin will have no problems with this. PVC or 
>others
> > > >would
> > > >> >be
> > > >> >> highly suspect.
> > > >> >> Any high quality glass lens will have no problems either. The
>o-rings
> > > >can
> > > >> >> stand alot of heat as well.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> You should always pull a test tube style out of it's reflector
>before
> > > >> >using,
> > > >> >> just to check the seals. The lens can be hit in such a way that 
>it
> > > >cracks
> > > >> >> the lens at the base, (where the o-rings are), but still appears
>to be
> > > >> >just
> > > >> >> fine while still in the reflector because this area is hidden 
>from
> > > >view.
> > > >> >> Dell Motes
> > > >> >> Dive Rite
> > > >> >> 117 W.Washington St.
> > > >> >> Lake City, Florida 32055
> > > >> >> www.dive-rite.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: Paul Harris <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>
> > > >> >> To: 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; cmilz@Mi*.ED*
> > > >> <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
> > > >> >> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
>cavers@cavers.com
> > > >> >> <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > >> >> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:07 PM
> > > >> >> Subject: RE: AUL canister light / light cord
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Chris,
> > > >> >> >I'm not sure about this as a solution.
> > > >> >> >Some friends and I were discussing non-wicking wire.
> > > >> >> >My (humble) opinion is that you need some way of transfering
> > > >> >> >air from the light head when you push the test tube on 
>otherwise
> > > >> >> >the positive pressure will push it off.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >I have noticed that it is much easier to remove or replace the
> > > >> >> >test tube when the lid is off the cannister.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >r
> > > >> >> >Paul
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> Claudia,
> > > >> >> >>      When I replaced my electrical cord I peeled the
> > > >> >> >> insulation back from both ends (after cutting it to the right
> > > >> >> >> length), put a wad of aquaseal around the wires, then pulled
> > > >> >> >> the insulation back up. This will keep any water from getting
> > > >> >> >> through a nick in the insulation and into the canister which
> > > >> >> >> may be what's happening to yours.
> > > >> >> >> C.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >--
> > > >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to
> > > >`techdiver@aq*.co*'.
> > > >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to
> > > >`techdiver-request@aq*.co*'.
>
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>
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