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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:28:09 -0500 (EST)
From: samuel frushour <frushour@in*.ed*>
To: Tomsits <odyssey@at*.mi*.co*>
cc: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL
JT
If you have never been in a low silt filled cave with your back on the
ceiling and your belly on the soft mud floor then you just cannot
appreciate that a 12 watt lamp will do about as much for you as a 50 watt
lamp.  I do prefer the higher wattage most of the time but there is just
no advantage when the silt or mud is dark and much of your dive will be in
stirred up mud.  Just my opinion again.

Sam Frushour

On Mon, 8 May 2000, Tomsits wrote:

> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 06:27:06 -0400
> From: Tomsits <odyssey@at*.mi*.co*>
> To: cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> First off, if anyone is not mentally prepared for a silt out then they
> should not be cave diving.  
> 
> Second... Why advocate using improper gear.  A 12 Watt primary light is
> useless.  You loose visual definition and clarity (The cave don't look so
> pretty and you can get lost:)).  The ability to distinguish features may be
> the difference between proper referencing and missing a jump.  You would be
> amazed at what you missed by using a 12W light.  Use a 50W BRL bulb and see
> the difference.
> 
> Third... (Assuming your diving with proper gear)  You are right.  Never
> turn off your primary during a dive.  The chances of the bulb filament
> breaking during cool down or start up is very high leaving you with the
> need to exit the cave with no primary.  This would turn a minor
> inconvenience into a more stressful situation.
> 
> Be cave divers and think these things through.  That's the difference
> between DIR and personal preference. - JT
> 
> 
> At 12:52 AM 5/9/2000 -0500, Jeff Disler wrote:
> >At 06:47 PM 05/07/2000 -0400, Mark Hanes wrote:
> >>OK here goes....
> >>
> >>If you are poking around in small silty restrictions and find yourself 
> >>in a white out situation...would it be better to keep your eyes open or 
> >>closed from a psycological standpoint??
> >>
> >>I always close my eyes as this doesnt let me know I cant see..and I 
> >>think helps me to concentrate on the line without the mental turmoil...	
> >>	what do you think??
> >
> >When I'm diving under these type conditions, I will usually just shut off
> >my light and leave my eyes open. This assuming that one already knows the
> >direction of travel and are on the line heading in their desired direction.
> >
> >Of course if the vis is not truely zereoed, then some navigational
> >information could be missed by either closing your eyes or shutting down
> >the primary.
> >
> >Why have my light on when it not usable, I'd just might as well save the
> >battery power for when and if the conditions clear (I'll check from time to
> >time) or beyond the sumps.
> >I have heard many suggest that shutting down a primary light during a cave
> >dive is not a wise thing to do. It is true that powering up a bulb is
> >probably the most likely time to have a bulb failure. Perhaps the higher
> >wattage bulbs used by some have a greater chance of bulb failure during
> >start up. I however usually only dive with a 12 or 20 watt bulb and have
> >never had one blow during switching on.
> >
> >Regards JD
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >"SILT HAPPENS"JD   JEFF DISLER
> >  SAFE CAVING       NSS 26000
> >
> 

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