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Subject: Re: Gue requirement to dive Madison Blue
Greetings Trey:
Thank you for your response. However, you did not answer any of my
questions. Therefore, I assume you are not a spokesperson for GUE. The
statement "Do what ever I want" is not a response. The obvious is not the
question. What
Mount does or does not do is not responsive. I did not ask any questions
concerning
"Mouth" sic for Mount. Actually, your response is very difficult to
understand. "Take it or leave it" is not responsive. However, I think
obtaining an answer requires a response from someone who knows.
You say you have put GUE together. Why can't you answer my
questions?
They are very basic.
What professionals? Name names. I will contact them.
There have been and are other explorations with good track records. I
have seen the results, which have be verified by independent sources and/or
publication.
It is a relevant question to a "not for profit" to know its association
with a "for profit" business it is endorsing.
If "adn dontl satet wthi oir tgpetty carp" does not concern a "pretty
carp", then clarification would be helpful.
How long have you been diving? Technical and cave divers have been
making their own equipment, which has many times been much better than
what
is commercially available for nearly 20 years. I have seen several
examples--very impressive.
Since you invited me, I do have questions about your project? I see
no reason why the person who constructed this response should be laughing
at anything or anyone else. But let's see if you can answer some logical
questions about
WKPP.
1. How is WKPP structured? Is it a not for profit, an association, or
just a group of divers?
2. How are the members of WKPP defined?
3. Which members hold patents concerning dive equiipment based on the
diving
done by WKPP?
4. Where can I find the published research of the findings of WKPP?
5. Besides Wakulla, what explorations has WKPP done?
6. Why do the set up divers never get to be lead divers despite their
obvious skills?
7. Who specifically defines the policies of WKPP?
8. Are there any members who are trained biologists or geologists that
are lead divers besides JJ?
9. How much new scientific information has WKPP discovered and where
is
it published?
I have just read Dustin's post. I didn't know. But, I will send these
questions anyway, because they are logical. If you truly answer the
questions or at least address the issue, I will continue the dialog.
Otherwise, I will have all the information I need. Best wishes.
Sincerely,
Mary Jane Humphrey
----- Original Message -----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Mary_Jane_Humphrey <Mary_Jane_Humphrey@em*.ms*.co*>
Cc: Caver's List <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: Gue requirement to dive Madison Blue
> MY, GUE membership has an online mail list that has more information on
> it that you will ever see elsewhere and is contributed to by the best in
> the game. Questions are answered by the pros. That is then achchived and
> compiled and is available to all members constantly as are all other
> materials. The "hard copy" stuff I do not know about.
>
> Mouth has had his shot at the game and has failed miserably in my
> opinion, as have the NACD and the CDS - time for something new, and time
> for information coming from the professionals who actuall do the ral
> thing and from the best adn most knowledgable in each area, not the
> lowest common denominator and the insructor based agancies.
>
> The real answer to your question is "do whatever you want". You will not
> find anything better than what we have put together in WKPP and GUE, and
> we have the track reocrd to go with it, and none of the rest of them can
> say that. Those who want REAL will come to us, those who either do not
> know or have been BS'd will go elsehere.
>
> So what. Take it or leave it. The obvoius is obvious - we woud not exist
> if there had been anything good going on out there, adn dontl satet wthi
> oir tgpetty carp about EE or Halcyon - the fat is that WKPP had all of
> its gear custom made when the jerks would not comply with our standards.
> Argue with thay and then tell me yuo have the creditials to even talk to
> me about dive gear, or question what we have made for our project, after
> I stop laughing.
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