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From: "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>
To: trey@ne*.co*, Mary_Jane_Humphrey@em*.ms*.co*
Cc: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: WKPP question and GUE question was Re: Fw: Gue requirement to dive Madison
     Blue
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 07:13:39 PDT
trey,

is this the kind of shit you have to defend?  do they think you hold us 
back?  for the record to all you doubting thomases, i will not do those huge 
dives.  that is all relative though.  when any of you can do an hour at 300 
and go nearly a mile into a cave at that depth with me, then you can tell me 
that i "just do support".  i dove basin support last sunday and had a blast. 
  thsi team is more than being about 18,000.  this team is about more than 
any of you will ever figure out.  george would love it if i stepped up to 
the breathers and went longer, but i am perfectly content doing the setup 
dives that i do.  this is my fourth season gas diving with the team and i am 
just now considering going past 4500/4800.  doing the 18,000 foot dives 
requires so much in so many arenas that most of us have no desire.

scott

>From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
>Reply-To: trey@ne*.co*
>To: Mary_Jane_Humphrey <Mary_Jane_Humphrey@em*.ms*.co*>
>CC: "Caver's List" <cavers@cavers.com>
>Subject: WKPP question and GUE question was Re: Fw: Gue requirement to dive 
>Madison Blue
>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 06:21:27 -0400
>

>
>The question, "why are setup divers not lead divers " is typical
>bullshit. They ARE. We do more than just what you hear about, and these
>guys are adding line and exploring all over the WKP on most dives where
>I am the "setup" diver. I also mix it up with most of the top divers on
>other dives. They lay the line , I do the survey.
>
>I will tell all of you fuckups this one more time, and get out the
>Macy's window bet: The reason I do the dives you hear about is that 1)
>JJ and I are the only ones who WILL do it, 2)  We have the most
>experience doing the long range dives, 3) We are the most able to
>phsyically tolerate it and WE CAN NOT FIND anyone else who wants to do
>it, not even Chris Werner, John Rose, Ted Cole, Jess Amrentrout, Bill
>Mee, Scott Landon, Terry Koritz, Casey McKinlay, Greg Jackson, or any of
>the many other great divers we have on the team.
>
>Not everyone wants to take the risk. These guys have families and kids -
>my kids are grown up, they have jobs - I have already finished my last
>career, they have real lives - mine is all taken care of and is about
>this kind of fun and games - I have no responsibilities that are not
>taken care of already.
>
>  They may not think exploring cave 18,000 feet from home is worth dying
>for. I do, and don't care anyway - I woud not have been given this
>strange ability to do this and tolerate it so well if I was not supposed
>to go find out what is there. I seriously doubt I will ever get killed
>or even injured or even bent cave diving in Tallahassee.
>
>  They  ( they other great divers ) may not want to take the beating - it
>is not a beating for me. They may not want to do the deco - I do not
>have to, I can do a fraction of it and walk away. They may not want to
>get that cold - I do not get cold. Etc, etc.
>
>  Even Brent Scarbin told me he would not tolerate another 18 hour day
>underwater. You observers just have no idea what this is all about.
>
>All of you pussies out there might hate me, but the fact is you can not
>beat my track rocord, and the fact is none of you have the tiniest clue
>what it takes to do what I do, and you can ask any member of the WKPP if
>they woud like to step into my shoes and have a shot at the brass ring,
>and every last one of them will say , "NO THANKS".
>

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