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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:08:20 +0000
To: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>,
     "ALEXANDER MELLER"
From: Samy Elashmawy <samelash@ix*.ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies
Cc: "BILL KRIMMEL" <bill@ev*.co*>, "cavers" <cavers@cavers.com>
Mike , why havent you gone public with the docs/facts ? 

once its public record , any one can use them. As much as I dislike the
direction tha legal system is taking , where any one can sue someone for
almost any thing , and tehn walk home with a check in there hand.


what ever happended to personal responsibilty here!!


I am in no way taking the haphazard  and unsafe ones off the hook here. 




A 07:17 AM 4/5/2000 -0400, Mike Bruic wrote: 

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<excerpt>Alex- thanks for your input, but I do not need the money form
the admission of cave divers. It's a drop in the bucket. As for cleaning
up the cds, I handed them one of their biggest idiots and liabilities on
two different silver platters (I did the proper cds paper work & backed
it with facts on both counts), they did nothing (fuck buddy system here),
so I will. If you feel this is unfair, sorry, but my best suggestion
would be to take it up with Denny and Rennaker, if you can get them out
of bed together long enough to listen to you (I couldn't).

  

Bruic  

<excerpt> ----- Original Message ----- 

 <bold>From:</bold> <<mailto:seacave@vo*.co*>ALEXANDER MELLER 

 <bold>To:</bold> <<mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic 

 <bold>Cc:</bold> <<mailto:bill@ev*.co*>BILL KRIMMEL ;
<<mailto:cavers@cavers.com>cavers 

 <bold>Sent:</bold> Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:52 PM

 <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies

 

 <smaller>Mike

</smaller> <smaller> I take a group of cave divers down from Pennsylvania
to Florida 4 to 5 times a year. They have been trained by one of the best
cave instructors in Florida and are certified NSS-CDS. In the last three
years, I have not visited your place for one reason or another(floods,
students in classes) In selling my trips, I speak of how beautiful your
place is and how great the cave system is at Madison Blue. we are coming
down again in April with the intention to visit Madison. 

</smaller> <smaller>    I cannot speak on the issues you have against the
training agencies or thier instructors and directors. I do not want to be
involved in such politics. I disagree with you on "GUE" being the only
agency to dive at your place. What if the Cayman's only allowed PADI
divers in and Cozumel only SSI divers.

</smaller> <smaller>    I was trained to cave dive by the NSS-CDS when
there was no GUE and no George. I feel I have evolved to become a top
notch cave diver over the years. I subscibe to the "DIR" method of gear
configeration and have the feelings most of the Wkpp have on team work,
buddy system, personal preference gear, etc. But I do not need "GUE to
sanction me. I cannot devote the time to work with the WKPP although I
admire their acomplishments would like to be a team player.

</smaller> <smaller>    Because you own Madison, I guess you have a right
say who comes and goes. I do not think you could survive at the
gates(income) if only Gue people would be admitted. Based on what I've
seen over the last three years, I do see most people flocking to GUE to
be trained. This is just my observation from being down the Florida caves
a month or so out of the year. It would be a real shame if you had to
lose Madison for lack of profits to be turned over to someone else who
would give two shits about the cave envoirment or the beauty of Madison. 

</smaller> <smaller>    Just a thought but if your worried about the
level of training coming to Madison, why don't you do guided dives or
have some type of chekout skills prior to entering your cave system. And
just another thought, Instead of renouncing the CDS, why don't you and
some of the GUE/CDS instructor get rid of the people running the NSS and
help mold it to take the shape you are after. I am not an authority on
Cave instruction although I am an scuba instructor. 

</smaller> <smaller>    I would really like to visit Madison without the
GUE involvement. I hope you reconsider. Thank you for your time.

</smaller> <smaller>Respectfully

</smaller> <smaller>Alex Meller

</smaller> <smaller><<mailto:seacave@vo*.co*>seacave@voicenet.com

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