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Glenn- it must be across the board, no maybe you, maybe not you. A CDS cave card is recognized by others for the agency itself, not the instructor, therefore it means shit to me when you got lying fat farm animals idiots like Rennaker holding one. Again, sorry, but take it up with the cds and tell them to get it together, not me. Bruic ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn T. <cavdwlr@ya*.co*> To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies > Hi Mike, just a quick question. Are you taking this on > an individual instructor basis or just blackballing > any cds/nacd certified diver. I have the plane tickets > bought and was planning on diving your place in early > may, I would hate to have to miss madison. I think the > instructor I got certified through is a decent > instructor and I know I am an excellent diver. I don't > blame you for what you are doing it just sucks for the > guys that did get a good education. Thanks for the > info. Glenn > > --- Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*> wrote: > > Alex- thanks for your input, but I do not need the > > money form the admission of cave divers. It's a drop > > in the bucket. As for cleaning up the cds, I handed > > them one of their biggest idiots and liabilities on > > two different silver platters (I did the proper cds > > paper work & backed it with facts on both counts), > > they did nothing (fuck buddy system here), so I > > will. If you feel this is unfair, sorry, but my best > > suggestion would be to take it up with Denny and > > Rennaker, if you can get them out of bed together > > long enough to listen to you (I couldn't). > > > > Bruic > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ALEXANDER MELLER > > To: Mike Bruic > > Cc: BILL KRIMMEL ; cavers > > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:52 PM > > Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies > > > > > > Mike > > I take a group of cave divers down from > > Pennsylvania to Florida 4 to 5 times a year. They > > have been trained by one of the best cave > > instructors in Florida and are certified NSS-CDS. In > > the last three years, I have not visited your place > > for one reason or another(floods, students in > > classes) In selling my trips, I speak of how > > beautiful your place is and how great the cave > > system is at Madison Blue. we are coming down again > > in April with the intention to visit Madison. > > I cannot speak on the issues you have against > > the training agencies or thier instructors and > > directors. I do not want to be involved in such > > politics. I disagree with you on "GUE" being the > > only agency to dive at your place. What if the > > Cayman's only allowed PADI divers in and Cozumel > > only SSI divers. > > I was trained to cave dive by the NSS-CDS when > > there was no GUE and no George. I feel I have > > evolved to become a top notch cave diver over the > > years. I subscibe to the "DIR" method of gear > > configeration and have the feelings most of the Wkpp > > have on team work, buddy system, personal preference > > gear, etc. But I do not need "GUE to sanction me. I > > cannot devote the time to work with the WKPP > > although I admire their acomplishments would like to > > be a team player. > > Because you own Madison, I guess you have a > > right say who comes and goes. I do not think you > > could survive at the gates(income) if only Gue > > people would be admitted. Based on what I've seen > > over the last three years, I do see most people > > flocking to GUE to be trained. This is just my > > observation from being down the Florida caves a > > month or so out of the year. It would be a real > > shame if you had to lose Madison for lack of profits > > to be turned over to someone else who would give two > > shits about the cave envoirment or the beauty of > > Madison. > > Just a thought but if your worried about the > > level of training coming to Madison, why don't you > > do guided dives or have some type of chekout skills > > prior to entering your cave system. And just another > > thought, Instead of renouncing the CDS, why don't > > you and some of the GUE/CDS instructor get rid of > > the people running the NSS and help mold it to take > > the shape you are after. I am not an authority on > > Cave instruction although I am an scuba instructor. > > I would really like to visit Madison without > > the GUE involvement. I hope you reconsider. Thank > > you for your time. > > Respectfully > > Alex Meller > > seacave@vo*.co* > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com >
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