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While they are having some problems in Long sland Sound with the lobsters, generally NY waters are light years from what they used to be. 20 ft vis is commonplace and it is not unusual to have top to bottom vis on some of the inshore wreck, which means 30-40 ft of vis. THe end of offshore dumping by the city of ny has really helped things, in some areas yards of silt have been washed away revealing wreck sections not seen for decades. regards, Al Marvelli Bill Wolk wrote: > On3/30/00 4:32 PM, Al Marvelli wrote: > > >You have most likely never had an actual bagel either. Bagels should be > >hard on > >the outside and chewy on the inside, and should not have a uniform roll like > >consistency. > > > >Grits , Thank God, cannot be found north of Maryland, except on US Military > >bases where they are standard fare for those conditioned to no longer care > >about flavor. > > > >So now you have three reasons to Visit Brooklyn: pizza, bagels and > >shipwrecks. > ^^^^^^^^^^^?! > > Sadly, I can confirm this to be true. I have not had a good bagel since > moving away from Brooklyn in 1993 and the New York "style" pizza in Miami > is -- like most things down here -- all style and no substance. Grits > fortunately have been largely driven underground by us transplanted > Northerners who appreciate the finer things in life -- like *visibility* > when we go wreck diving. When I get homesick for diving off of New York > and New Jersey, I just take a marker and black out my mask. > > Best regards -- > > Bill
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