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I agree that well marked T's are preferable to gaps, but changing the "old system" will take some work. As for guidelines to the surface, it would depend on entrance conditions and accessibility of the site to untrained divers. As a past NACD board member, I consistently got out voted on the issue of changing the training standards from the two tiered, cavern diver/cave diver to the convoluted multistep system now in place. It was my position that someone was a trained cave diver or they weren't...but the economic pressures and the desire to promote courses out voted my Neanderthal non-user friendly position on training. Lee Drew Glasbrenner wrote: > Joel...I have visitors from Denmark at the moment so I'll be brief. I'd > prefer Ts from the beginning, a permanent guideline to the surface at most > sites, and getting rid of the training system as it is today. Teaching > people half of what they need to know and turning them loose in the world is > a dangerous proposition. The things I did on my Intro card would make people > shudder on this list and makes me wonder why I survived. If I had been > forced to take everything through Full in one shot I would not have been at > such a risk. > > Let the list and the instructors hammer away, I'll sort it out and reply > when I can. > > Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*> > To: Drew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@mi*.co*>; O'Daniel, David > <David_O'Daniel@bs*.bl*.co*> > Cc: Cave listserv <cavers@cavers.com> > Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: Gaps and T's > > >on 3/11/00 1:57 PM, Drew Glasbrenner at glasbrenner@mi*.co* wrote: > > > >> I'd prefer well arrowed T's any day. The only good thing I can say about > >> gaps is that they help keep beginner divers out of areas they shouldn't > be > >> in and on the main line. Tees make it easier to route find. Imagine > driving > >> through a neighborhood where you could only see 50 ft and the roads > lacked > >> 75 ft of intersecting. > > > >Drew, > > > >So you would favor an improved version of what we have today? Gaps up to, > >say 1200-1500' and T-s beyond that? > > > >Later, > > > >JoeL > >
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