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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:15:13 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Gaps and T's
Gaps where you can not get on them inadvertantly are fine, but the
problem then becomes what if you got onto the gapped line from the other
end and you are arrowed to another gap while having an emergency.

Look at James Henerdson ( RIP ) in Ginnie Springs, for example <>
harmless enough , Ginnie, right?  Not so. You get into that maze of
goobery in the middle and it is arrowed all over the freaking place
without regard for the small size of some of the passages that you could
get sent onto, or that gaps everywhere. The gaps to the room may be too
far to even see the line or the line is above you on the roof and you
can not see it. 


Joel Markwell wrote:
> 
> on 3/11/00 11:47 AM, Trey at trey@ne*.co* wrote:
> 
> > I think they need to T it all in, arrow it properly, and then forbid
> > adding of arrows, only clips by those who do not know the survey.
> 
> Trey,
> 
> So you don't believe that gaps have any place in cave diving? How about
> recreational (stroke) caves like Ginnie, Peacock and Little River? Should
> the front of the cave be gapped and beyond 1500' be T'd?
> 
> Is there any model where gaps are actually safer?
> 
> Later,
> 
> JoeL


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