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The only benefit to a different cavers list would be better administration. (I'm awaiting the bounces!) I know people have offered to host it. I have the equipment and bandwidth to host it, but not the time to administer it. At 06:26 PM 1/24/2000 -0600, underhillp@ju*.co* wrote: >Most of the "traffic" on cavers seems to have migrated away already. >Partly due to the meeker amongst us avoiding exposure (for reasons well >known to all) and mostly, I think moving to "private" lists. At least >when there were flame wars going on, we got one or two gems out of the >forty-plus messages of blowhard bullshit per day. Fragmenting off to >another list will only decrease the value of this one still further. > >All of the formerly most worthwhile contributors were generally those who >supported your "free speech" concept and yet have taken their caring, >tender-hearted banter elsewhere (to avoid what? -- some criticism they >can't handle -- I doubt it!) so that they can converse only with >like-minded individuals on a higher plane no doubt. > >I would like to invite anyone with something to say (or a question to >ask) to speak up. > >Regards, > Philip > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:11:43 -0500 (EST) "John R. Rose" <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*> >writes: > > Billy, > > > > The freedom of speech that is being referred to is that of > > being free to present an opinion without the fear that someone might > > being so rude as to point out that it is bullshit. > > > > Most of the bitching that I hear about cavers concerns this > > "peer-review" process. I think that it is a great idea for people to > > create their own moderated list where everyone can feel good about > > themself. That should raise the signal to noise ratio on this list. > > > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 bdi@wh*.ne* wrote: > > > > > At 06:15 25/01/00 , Hazel.Barton@UC*.ed* wrote: > > > > > > > If you are interested, Email me with the title 'New List' and > > I'll forward > > > >everything to Jim. > > > > > > > >Regards, happy caving and freedom of speech! > > > > > > > > > Hazel, freedom of speech is NOT a moderated list. > > > ANd anyway, seems you're enjoying the freedom of > > > speech right here on cavers. > > > > > > rgrds billyw > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ---------------------------------- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> NW Labor Systems, Inc http://www.nwls.com How much extra bandwidth would we have if we didn't have these stupid signatures, anyway? ----------------------------------
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