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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:57:14 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Hazel.Barton@UC*.ed*
CC: cavers@ditell.com, cavers@cavers.com, caverbob@ao*.co*, chac@lc*.ne*,
     akumal@ca*.co*, lgu@ma*.ca*.ne*.mx*
Subject: Re: New Longest Underwater Cave in World
The Leon Sinks Cave System is over 100,000 feet, at an average depth of
220 feet. Depth compensated, that makes us the longest. Sinkhole
compentsated, there is no comparison. We are the longest underwater cave
in the United States .

I do not mind you guys reporting your cave, but give us a break with the
officious "step aside for the experts attitude" - that is a joke. For
you to crow about "difficulty" of survey is pathectic - try it at 300
feet , 18,000 feet from a sinkhole, and then tell us all how tough you
are. 

If and when we are able to piece together the many appartently
unattached parts of Leon into the one system, it will be about fifteen
times as big. Rather than get on here with the Jill Heinerth attitude,
why don't you show us what contribution you have made to the sport and
what we have all learned from your diving? We know what Madden has
consistently contributed, how about you?


Hazel.Barton@UC*.ed* wrote:
> 
> Fellow cavers,
> 
> We are presently in the process of reinstating the Quintana Roo
> Speleological Survey's position as a project of the National Speleological
> Society. In the meantime, we have been updating the data files of the known
> caves in Quintana Roo.
> 
> After all available data was compared, we are pleased to announce that the
> longest, surveyed underwater cave in the world is now Ox Bel Ha at 43.88
> miles/70.65 kilometers. According to Bob Gulden's long cave list, this makes
> Ox Bel Ha the 18th longest cave in the world.
> 
> This is an incredible achievement considering that the initial exploratory
> dives by Sam Meacham and Bil Phillips began in January of 1998 (dry cavers
> should consider the difficulty of surveying imposed by the underwater
> environment).
> 
> The latest data for the longest caves in Quintana Roo are as follows:
> 
> Cave System          Length     Depth   Reported by     Date
> 1. Ox Bel Ha         70 650 m   -33 m   Sam Meacham     1/00
> 2. Nohoch Nah Chich  60 985m*   -72m    Dan Lins        1/00
> 3. Sistema Dos Ojos  55 322m*   -101m   Jim Coke        1/00
> 
> *Some of the lengths indicated here are shorter than previously published,
> this is due to survey and data entry errors that previously extended the
> length of the caves. These data errors have been identified and resolved to
> generate the lengths presented.
> 
> Happy caving and cartographically yours,
> 
> The Directors of the Quintana Roo Speleological Survey,
> 
> Hazel Barton
> Jim Coke
> Dan Lins
> Gary Walten
> 
> We would like to thank Larry Fish for his help in producing a conversion
> program that has allowed much of the QR survey data to be converted to a
> usable form in Compass.


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