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Art,
    I couldn't care less about the topic of this thread, but let me make
something clear. Cavers, both wet and dry, DO NOT take anything out of the
cave. This is a basic tenet of the NSS, and other caving groups worldwide.
The formations that nature created over a time span most humans cannot grok
do not belong on someone's mantleplace.

While this does not change your original argument, it is an important
clarification.

Drew Glasbrenner

-----Original Message-----
From: Paltz, Art <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail) <techdiver@aq*.co*>
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 6:49 AM
Subject: RE: Hessian Scorecard


>Do you work for the press o something?  You've taken this out of context.
>My point, which I thought I made clear, was that some people enjoy diving
in
>caves and others enjoy wreck diving.  Some recover artifacts while others
>take rock samples.  In both cases if left alone no one would learn from
>them.
>
>Give us all a break Peter!  We're not talking about appartide (SP?) or
>genocide; we're talking about portholes and rock samples....  You're trying
>to provoke a fight.  I think you need to get out and dive.....
>
>Art.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Fjelsten [SMTP:fjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*]
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 1:05 PM
> To: Paltz, Art
> Cc: Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Hessian Scorecard
>
> Den 20:38 10-12-99  skrev Paltz, Art:
> >I don't criticize them so they shouldn't criticize me.
>
> I don't want to get inveolved in this but the statement above is
> ridiculous.
>
> By this token one cannot criticize governments that torture its
>citizens -
> unless, of course, THEY have criticised you in the past. Come on!?
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