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Gee wiz, guess ole Georgie was right about these guys after all? How about that. Now you assholes are getting what you deserve. The fact is most of you idiots should not be teaching anything no matter how many cave dives you have in Weenieland or at Peacock, and the fact is that Gilliam is no worse than NSS/CDS or the NACD in my opinion, and my level of cave diving makes yours look like open water one, to be perfectly honest. Cave diving will not be allowed much longer , thanks to all of you. Gilliam and Odem are smart to get while the getting is good. All of you bozos have screwed up diving , and the only guys who will be left in the long run are the scientifc projects with genuinely legitimate objectives and training, not the bullshit you strokes are pulling. I do not see the difference between what you claim Odem is doing and the one week wonder cave diving courses you idiots pump out. There is no difference, and so long as you have guys like Orlowski at Training Director, and continue to conduct Peacock to Pothole cave courses, you have no room to criticize TDI . EANX@ao*.co* wrote: > > A letter from Steve Gerrard > > <<<<TDI BOYCOTT > > Whoa! Boycott? That's the strong word I'm getting from many cave > > Instructors, cave divers, dive stores and businesses here in the Riviera > > Maya and in Florida! Apparently, more individuals have become TDI Cave > > Instructors during the past year. This past week, Joe Odom was staying in > > Akumal conducting a > > TDI Cavern & Cave Instructor IEC for a group of seven candidates. What is > > making everyone upset is > > some of the individuals lack the proper cave diving experience in general > > and everyone questions if these seven candidates have ever assisted with > > cavern and cave courses to qualify attending the IEC as established and > > agreed by all agencies offering cavern & cave Instructor certifications. I > > am told that at the > > 1999 DEMA Trade Show in New Orleans there was a meeting between the > > Training Directors and Chairmen of the NACD, NSS-CDS, IANTD and TDI and > > that these four agencies would adhere to follow minimum standards. Joe > > Odom promised he would follow these standards. > > An example is a fellow named Jose Barbi who lives in Cozumel. Jose told me > > months ago he has assisted with the required minimum two cavern courses > > with German Mendoza to qualify for the TDI IEC. German tells me Jose has > > never assisted with any cavern courses. So what is going on? > > Personally, I'm still upset with the fiasco of 1998 when Joe appointed Al > > Pertner a TDI Cave Instructor Trainer in February, 1998. The problem was > > AL certified several individuals as TDI Cave Instructors and these people > > had less than 50 logged cave dives and no or little experience assisted > > with cavern and cave courses. Plus, they never went through the process of > > teaching cavern courses, building experience, then becoming Introduction To > > Cave Instructors, teaching a few of those types of courses and then > > qualifying to attend a Full Cave TDI IEC. It got so bad they that TDI > > revoked Al's Instructor Trainer certification. Everyone along the > > Riviera Maya was calling it Easy Al's TDI Express machine. > > Here's an example: I certified Nicholai Toussaint and a full cave diver > > during late October, 1997. The summer of 1998, Nicholai becomes a TDI Full > > Cave Instructor and was one the evaluators for the TDI IEC > > during December 2nd - 5th, 1999. > > Another individual I certified as a full cave diver was Scott Bonis. Scott > > is an engineer retired from the NASA Apollo Space program. He travels > > around the United States and Mexico in his RV with his wife. > > He spends every winter in Paalmu Beach campground until this year where he > > bought a condo in Puerto Aventuras. He became a TDI Full Cave Instructor > > the summer of 1998. How does anyone acquire the necessary experience in > > underwater caves with that type of schedule? > > Matt Matthes wrote a message recently on the Internet caver's list voicing > > his concern as he familiar with several of the candidates in the local TDI > > IEC. Like I said, everyone is pissed and the word boycott is being stated > > everywhere. German Mendoza is a TDI Cave Instructor (and NACD) and he > > wrote a very strong letter to Brett Gilliam - President & Owner of TDI > > voicing his concern with this problem. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't > > think anyone is against these or any individuals in becoming cavern or cave > > Instructors. It's just must be done correctly following the standards > > established within the cavern and cave diving community. Does this make > > sense? Enough said!>>>
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