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kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:

> Von, I will never in my life do as many cave dives as I have done deep

> ocean diving.

The same for me.

> You do not seem to see that there is no circumstance where
> doing it wrong makes any sense. So far all of your silliness is
nothing
> more than accommodations of other mistakes you are making and
compounding
> with more silliness.
>

Is it silly to incur deco obligation on a deep ocean dive and not have a
redundant
bottom timer or depth gauge and watch?

Is it silly to wear a dry suit in warm ocean water in which one could
overheat and
become dehydrated in order to accommodate steel tanks?

Is it silly to wear a primary and two back up lights on a clear and warm
ocean dive
which are clearly not needed. - you can add a weight to your belt if
necessary?

Is it silly to carry aluminum doubles and three or four aluminum stage
bottles in
order to make a deep swimming ocean dive?

>
> You can not support it with any logic that stands the light of day,
and
> I seriously doubt that you do anything in caves that I would consider
> consistent with our methods.

George, you are assuming here.  You know what happens when you assume.

>
>
> REPEAT - I AM AN OCEAN DIVER - cave diving is a sideline for me.

DITTO.


> No amount of wishing will make any effort by the wreck "divers" to
discredit
> what I am saying hold any water simply because I know what I am
talking
> about, have the log book and track record to prove it, and can make
> perfect sense of it against any argument any of you want to make.
>

I am not attempting to discredit DIR. It's a system that works
beautifully in a
cave.


>
> Von, I would not get on a boat with anyone doing any of the things I
> have seen you recommend.

George, I'm not sure other people on the boat would let you on :-)

> I do not like to be on hand for clusterufucks,
> accidents, and especially deaths - seen too many of them , read about
> too many ,heard about too many and most of them are coming up looking
> like you in the gear department, and started the dive thinking like
you.

There you go making those assumptions again.

George, the art of scuba diving has been evolving for centuries.  I
assure you the
evolution will not start or stop with you or me.

Bill

>

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