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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:51:04 -0400
From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: chris@sc*.ed*
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Translation- Re: Did I Miss Something?
Chris, we may need another "translation" for anyone who vists this guy's
web site. There is a picture of a pair of circus-class fat slobs that
tax the believability scale. Looks like a Bentley "Photo Shop"
masterpiece. Beyond the pale. The Sermon on the Mount needs to be
revised to "deliver me from Central Florida cave divers".

Chris Elmore wrote:
> 
> Thanks George, I'll take it from here...
> 
> What George said:
> 
> > Frankie, did you write the following slobbering stupidity, or did I
> > imagine it? This is the kind of crap that only the worst bottom feeding
> > moron would say. Explain this to us, and tell me why anyone should
> > listen to a blithering idiot like you about anything to do with diving.
> > Frank, take your stuipid ass off of these lists and keep your ignorant
> > dangerous mouth shut . I am really sick of dumb asses like you in
> > diving. There is no reason to even be remotely polite about it.
> 
> What George meant:
> "Mr. Lavallee,
>         Before we enter a debate on this subject I would like to confirm that
this
> is, in fact, your stated position (please see attachments below). I really
have
> my doubts that anyone in the upper end of the food chain could believe this-
> let alone author it. Perhaps I'm missing something here and it's just a simple
> misunderstanding. I usually get my information from highly respectable sources
> or personal experience but I'm willing to concede that even those poor,
> unfortunate, intellectually challenged divers just might have a valid point to
> make (even as astronomically remote as that may be). On the other hand, I am a
> busy man and this list is a forum for enlightened and intelligent
communication
> among the more cerebral divers of the world. Other lists are available that
> may be more receptive to your, Hmmm.... shall we say, "aberrant" view. Another
> equally acceptable option is to take up a new hobby like golf where the
> prospect of assuming room temperature is more related to ambient electrical
> storms than ones ability to understand some (relatively) esoteric
physiological
> concepts. I apologize if this is not what you wanted to hear from me but I
> believe in being honest without regard to how this may make you feel. I'm sure
> you can find other endeavours such as running speed traps to bolster your self
> esteem."
> 
> >
> > Message Display
> >
> > From: "Frank Lavallee" <lavalle7@gt*.ne*>
> > Subject: Deep Air Diving
> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:27:19 -0700
> >
> > One person on the cavers post made an interesting comment.  He is
> > getting
> > ready to take a Trimix course, but before he does, he is required to
> > take a
> > deep air course first.  To my knowledge, the agencies that teach Trimix
> > require you to take a course(Advanced Deep Air, Extended Range, etc.)
> > and
> > run drills on air down to 180'.  I had to go through myself.  So what is
> > the problem with using Trimix with a 180' END?  The PN2's and PO2's are
> > within an acceptable range at this depth and END.  Most of the Trimix
> > divers that I run into are using mixes with an END in this general
> > range.
> > Are you saying that we're all wrong?  If we're going to debate the
> > issue,
> > let's do it civilly, without the name calling and without sarcastic and
> > profane comments.
> >
> >
> > Message Display
> >
> > From: "Frank Lavallee" <lavalle7@gt*.ne*>
> > Subject: Deep Air Diving
> > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:32:35 -0700
> >
> > I don't see a problem with those divers who make air dives in the 130' -
> > 200' range and are trained and experienced in doing so.  What I see is a
> > problem with those divers who push the physiological limits of the human
> > body by making air dives to 250', 300', and beyond.  The narcosis and
> > high
> > PO2's are bound to get you, sooner or later, and then it's "bye-bye" and
> > "so long".
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Chris Elmore
> Network Administrator
> University of SC
> (803) 777-1534 office
> (803) 348-3055 mobile
> Chris@sc*.ed*


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