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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:44:51 -0400
To: Kevin Schooler <kevin.schooler@pa*.me*.ut*.ed*>
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Short Questions
Kevin Schooler wrote:
> 
Irvine,
A few questions,
 
> 1) What happened to the WKPP web site? At first it gave not authorized
errors, then it was gone. Happened about 2 weeks ago.
 

  The sites are down while Network Tallahasee redoes its hosting
operation.


> 3) You mentioned on techdiver that the WKPP had just done another record
dive. Did you put a dive report somewhere?

   The report is on the GUE website.


> 4) I just read the NSS article on the WKPP. What is the longest sink to sink
through trip that the WKPP has done (single dive) In the Leon sinks system?

    The longest traverse is 14,000 feet between Big Dismal and Cheryl
sinks. 
 
> 5) If I understood the NSS articles map, Wakulla is going away from Leon not
towards it as it says in the article? Is passage missing from the map?

     Yes. 25,000 feet is intentionally missing from the map. If you look
at it again, you will see Highway 365 near the bottom of the page.
Wakulla Cave goes well past that and off the map, heading Southwest from
"Cherokee Sink", and is actually more than twice as long as what you see
on the NSS map. There are also many more tunnels , mostly at or beyond
Cherokee which are not shown. Leon Sinks is now across S.R. 267 headed
to the same spot. We believe they intersect down there on the way to
Spring Creek, and hope to find out as we continue to explore. 

     One of our guys works for FGS and we routinely supply the real data
to that organization and USGS, as well as DEP ,DOT,  USDA, and DSDI. The
problem up to now , as has been proven by the NGS TV show about Bill
Stone's clusterfuck at Wakulla , is that these guys claim they did what
we in fact did, and my bet was that they would be able to claim no more
than what we showed them - this proved to be correct. They explored
nothing, and in fact spend over 1 million dollars trying to do what we
did in one day on open circuit scuba with in water decompression, not to
mention the rest of the stuff we did with rebreathers and multiple
scooters which they could not hope to ever even approximate in their
wildest dreams wiht anything other than a massive pump to drain the cave
of its water and install some kind of tourist path for them to walk on,
like they have at Mammoth Cave in Kentucky.

 You dry cave guys problably find it extremely queer that a guy like
Stone and his band would claim to have done somthing they have not done,
but then if you ever saw any of these guys, you would likely offer them
some spare change and ride to the Slavation Army - they are that
pathetic, and basicly represent the worst of the worst not only in this
sport but in this society.


> 6) I am looking for a WKPP exploration video to show at our NSS grotto
meeting. It should have lots of cave video and preferably narrated story. The
audience will all be cavers but not necessarily divers and a maximum of one
cave diver. Since you guys now have a bunch, what would you reccomend as I have
not seen any of them.

  The perfect video for that is called "WKPP". It tells the whole story
and contains all the information that would be of interest to anyone.
Also has great visuals. That you can get off of the GUE site as well.

>  Thanks in advance,
> Kevin Schooler
> Kevin.Schooler@pa*.me*.ut*.ed*
> 
>


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