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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:03:34 -0400
To: Phi Le <PLe@Se*.co*>
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: WKPP is what it is wasRe:
Phi, all of the big timers in the "community" think they know more than
we do about this, and that they should show up with their gear and a
reel and go lay line.

The fact is our weed out-process usually eliminates characters like this
one, and it is clear that the uscct demonstrated that with unlimited
access, bells , chambers, rb's, "$34,000" scooters, and a nice set of
lines to follow: they do not in fact know jack , and our way is what
works in all respects, including the obvious safety. 

The "community" feels that its big timers should be able to show up and
run loose, like they did with Stone. Notice that two of the three
accidents by Stone were due to just this problemm, actually all three
accidents ( that were reported).

The one thing this anononmous guy has correct when he says "you can have
it" is that we do in fact have it all - every bit of it - and that is
the way it will be , because the "community" has failed so miserably at
cave diving, and its attitudes and other crap will never change.

I love to see these resentful little wimps keep complaining , and I love
that it has never done any of them any good, and only stregthens our
resolve to keep all of them as far away from us as is possible.

We really need to cross refrence Stone's project list so that we NEVER
get one of these guys near us again.

By the way, they do not sign their real name because they know we hold
the keys to every good dive site in this State, but we can spot them by
the atitude, and if they have not been helping us consistently, they
will never dive any of them anyway, unless Stone gets another permit at
Wakulla ( the only place possible for him to get one, but not likely
since his last Fiasco).

By the way, for all of you hypocritical little pricks out there ,
NOBODY, including Jim King or Bill Stone himself or his girlfriend
Imunde or any of his sponsors or contibutors or helpers got to dive in
Wakulla Cave. Only a small handfull consisting of Zumrick, some other
bozo, the guy from Ginnie, the Lunchbuckets, some dude with tatoos and
earrings, and two British kids got to dive. The other "152" team members
got to sit around and play Star Trek with the likes of Chrissy Brown.

I have put more divers in Wakulla Cave than anyone, and have gotten more
access to more awesome dive sites for more people than anyone. This is
called the WKPP - and we don't have to be nice about it to any of the
personal preference clowns in the "community". There are winners and
losers, we are clearly the winners.

Long term results with an attitude, and don't mistake self respect for
ego - we have both, and both are well deserved. Too bad, all you
crybabies. 

Phi Le wrote:
> 
> So you don't like to help them, nothing's wrong with that. I just wonder why
> you don't sign your real name ?
> 
> -Phi
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         Anonymous[SMTP:nobody@re*.co*]
> > Sent:         Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:15 AM
> > To:   cavers@cavers.com
> >
> > Subject: Re:
> >
> > Have you ever done a cave dive in your life? Do you even dive?
> >
> > I showed up to help out at Wakulla, once. Many years ago when there was
> > the big circus there run by boy George. About 50 people were there
> > with me. We all got to carry a bunch of tanks to the water and listen
> > to a bunch of overblown egos talk about how cool they are. After that we
> > got the thrill of watching other people do deco.
> >
> > If that's what you call cave diving then you can have it.
> >
> > A brainless mouth named Ray LaTullipe wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 6/15/1999 3:08:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > HKSKS@ao*.co*
> > > writes:
> >
> > > <<     Just what is your definition of cave diving? >>
> >
> > > Show up at Wakulla and find out!
> >
> >
> >

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