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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 06:56:07 -0400
To: Steve_Lewis/PGComm%PGCOMM@pg*.co*
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Regards
Steve, I concur.

Steve_Lewis/PGComm%PGCOMM@pg*.co* wrote:
> 
> George:
> If the majority of "regulator service technicians" down your way are
> anything like the monkeys up here in the Lakes, I doubt they know how to
> lower intermediate pressure let alone its effects. There's an irresistible
> body of evidence that dropping the IP to the bottom end of the scale (or
> lower) makes it more stable in low water temps but people still resist and
> jack 'em way up (seen a G250/mark 10 at 138... hair-trigger or what).
> 
> Asked JJ for a couple of replacement one-way valves for my outboard dump...
> if you see him, ask him where I might look for them up here would you?
> 
> Take care.
> 
> Steve Lewis
> Creative Director
> 905.940.0200 x109
> slewis@pg*.co*
> 
> 
>                     kirvine@sa*
>                     i.net                To:    
Steve_Lewis/PGComm%PGCOMM@pg*.co*
>                                          cc:
>                     04/29/99             Subject:     Re: Regards
>                     06:48 PM
>                     Please
>                     respond to
>                     kirvine
> 
> 
> 
> Seve, jump on these guys when they pull the cold water stuff. The conept
> of letting an independent tank drain is pretty dumb. These guys need to
> learn how to detune a reg, and pinch a hose until they get the valve
> shut off. It takes a long time to freeze one anyway. I agree with what
> you said below.
> 
> Steve_Lewis/PGComm%PGCOMM@pg*.co* wrote:
> >
> > George:
> >
> > Don't read the cavers / techdiver lists often there's simply too much
> crap,
> > but scrolling through the archives I noticed the independent argument
> > surfacing but this time the excuse for doing something this dumb seems to
> > have been cold water. As a cold water diver I just wanna go on record and
> > repeat stuff that's been said before: if you can't reach over your head
> to
> > operate your manifold, buy a dry suit that fits, visit a physiotherapist,
> > or stay outta the water.
> >
> > Also tank labelling. I dive (and teach) in shitty visibility, and the
> only
> > things that work are big letters stencilled on the tank (same as your
> > guys), using the right mixes (oxygen and 50/50 for instance) and a
> seaCure
> > mouthpiece on the O2 reg... backs and bungy cords and lace dollies don't
> > work in 4 degree c water when you're wearing dry gloves... all the
> bullshit
> > about agency labelling standards is just that... instructors are supposed
> > to meet and exceed standards not follow them like sheep. However, the big
> > BUT is that all the labelling in the world does squat if nobody  checks
> the
> > fucking label... didn't we all get taught the same thing in our basic
> > nitrox class... something about checking what your buddy is breathing?
> >
> > Anyhow guy, nice to see you're still at it. Take care and I don't know
> > where you get your patience from.
> >
> > Steve Lewis
> > Creative Director
> > 905.940.0200 x109
> > slewis@pg*.co*


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