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From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>, "Ken Sallot" <sallot@mi*.co*>,
     , "Nanci LeVake"
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: A Dead Skunk: The growing stink of Bottle Marking
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:01:01 -0400
Obviously you do not read all the post
the MOD sticker does have 3 inch high letters on it.

Respectfully yours,
Tom Mount
CEO IANTD World HQ
http://www.iantd.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Nanci LeVake <nlevake@pi*.co*>
To: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>; Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>; Ken
Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>; kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
<cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: A Dead Skunk: The growing stink of Bottle Marking


>I think Tom is missing a huge business opportunity.  What if IANTD _made_
>new IANTDish MOD stickers?  They could be cool nitrox-y colors, oriented
>horizontally with 3 inch numerals, but the important thing is that ALL
>IANTD divers would be required to change their bottle marking stickers to
>the new IANTD standard!    Those who couldn't dedicate two or three
>aluminum 80s as stage bottles would have to buy even more stickers so they
>could cover up the old stickers.  It would make thousands!!!!!  It's so
>simple.  I don't know why someone didn't think of this sooner!  I've solved
>the problem of IANTD tank marking!!!!!
>
>
>
>At 04:52 PM 4/29/99 -0400, Bill Mee wrote:
>>Tom,
>>
>>LIke a dead skunk in the road, the subject of bottle markings gets flatter
>>and flatter, but the stink just won't go away. I have patiently read
through
>>your bottle marking standards.  Colored Regulator Jackets and flaky little
>>peel off MOD stickers just do not cut it. The argument has been made to
you
>>politely, impolitely, nastily, obnoxiously and just about every other way
>>possible, yet the most obvious solution to the problem still is missing.
It
>>is inconcievable that you don't understand the rationale and logic behing
>>the 3" MODs on either side of gas bottles.
>>
>>My question is the following: What gives? You must a have a very big
problem
>>with this method or otherwise you would have incorporated it into your
>>standards a long time ago.  There must be a good reason for not doing
this.
>>Maybe the reason is a private one and cannot be answered in public for
>>reasons of liability or economics.  Fine, then plead the fifth.  Anyway,
I
>>think you owe everyone out here a reasonable explanation for what it is
that
>>you cannot accept about this method.
>>
>>I am not trying to be sarcastic and a wise guy here.  I am just very
curious
>>as to what the extreme prejudicial reason is for your finding double sided
>>3" MODs less acceptable than scotch tape and colored regulator  jackets.
>>This is a fair question and since you are already out here in the midst of
a
>>discussion on this public forum, in the capacity of director of the
largest
>>technical diving organization on earth, you are fair game.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
>>To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>; kirvine@sa*.ne*
>><kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>>Cc: bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>; William J Turbeville II <bturbo@ga*.ne*>;
>>techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
>><cavers@cavers.com>
>>Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:22 AM
>>Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
>>
>>
>>>Ken
>>>It is not just color coding however as any photography can tell you and
you
>>>can prove by looking there are colors such as green, yellow and pink that
>>>are still visible at depth regardless of ROY G BIV. They are less
brilliant
>>>but still seeable but the point is not the color it is they state oxygen
0r
>>>deco gas I or Nitrox is highly visible wording. so they are readable to
all
>>>and identify the gas type and in deco gas and Oxygen state mod on them,
>>>Second the contents tape is readable to the diver, third the MOD is
>>readable
>>>to all, fourth the mountpeice wrap is completely noticeable as you cannot
>>>breat around it.
>>>
>>>Please remove me from your CC list
>>>
>>>Respectfully yours,
>>>Tom Mount
>>>CEO IANTD World HQ
>>>http://www.iantd.com
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
>>>To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>>>Cc: bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>; Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>;
>>>William J Turbeville II <bturbo@ga*.ne*>; techdiver@aq*.co*
>>><techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:00 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
>>>
>>>
>>>>Even your typical Openwater 1 student should be able to tell you that
>>>>color coding things is stupid if for no other reason then ROYGBIV. Next
>>>>we'll hear about how the students should sniff the gases to determin the
>>>>proper amount of oxygen in the mix.
>>>>
>>>>kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Billy , this is what happened with Jane ORensten - not only did they
>>>>> have no idea what was in the tanks by looking at them, they never even
>>>>> noticed she was breathing the wrong one based on the side bullshit
that
>>>>> Mount subscribes to ( and actually REQUIRES instructors to do if you
can
>>>>> believe that ), and they did not notice that the colored regs , poodle
>>>>> jackets and the rest of the claptrap was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>"What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
>>>>is first-rate."
>>>>                      -- Doris Lessing
>>>>                       (British writer)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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