Ken
1. It was not an IANTD dive
2. The cylinders were not marked per IANTD standards. don't you read the
post or the standards , take your blinders off so you can understand what
you read

Per IANTD standards the oxygen cylinder requires a oxygen wrap around the
cylinder. This has oxygen written in big words. As of May 1 they will also
be required to have a protective device around the mouthpiece. It has been
recommended for several years already now it will be required.

Do's
1. All cylinders must be properly labeled
A. The Nitrox band/label may be used only on  cylinders containing LESS
than 49% oxygen, and it is REQUIRED on these cylinders, always has been
B. Cylinders with greater than 49% must have a deco mix sticker with mix and
mod or if greater than 85% an oxygen with deco mix and mod. IT is required
on these cylinders.For oxygen the oxygen only label must be used.
C. At the face of the cylinder (on stages where the diver can glance down
and read it) with the mix and mod on it.
D. The Mod labels or a painted Mod run down the side of the cylinder on
stages and deco cylinders
E. The highest decompression EANx mix must have protective cover over it.

DO NOT's
1. Put mixtures greater than 49% in a cylinder with a standard EANx label on
it.
2. If a mix greater than 49% is to be used the Nitrox label is to be removed
and either a deco gas label or oxygen label is to be placed on the cylinder
3. The cylinder cannot be dived with out a MOD indicated on it.
4. Do not fill or dive a cylinder with Nitrox if it does not have a label
5. Do not fill a cylinder with oxygen or dive it unless it has a oxygen
label on it with MOD
6. Do not teach a student without properly labeled cylinders per the
standards.
and Do not allow a student in the water unless the hottest mix for deco has
a protective cover over the second stage
7. Do not dive a student who does not have the visible contents and MOD att
he face of the neck on a stage cylinder so it can be seen when he/she looks
down at it.


Now to summarize why we have went to such great lengths to identify cylinder
contents and MODs, of course it is to prevent accidents.
The system works by
1. The gas type identifier is visible to everyone who sees the cylinder
(wrap around the neck) so it is for the world to know
2. The MOD is so the buddy may see it and other divers on the dive as well
3. The contents tape is so the diver can glance down and verify the mix. so
it is for the diver (on bottom mix it is just a means of quick reference
prior to donning the cylinder(s)
4. The cover on the second stage of the hottest mix is an added preventive
step, that I think was first introduced by Billy Deans around 1992. This
makes it almost impossible if not impossible to breathe the mix without
removing the cover. It can be as simple as a piece of bungy tied around the
m mouthpiece to be between the divers mouth and the inhalation part of the
second stage.

Why so many steps because regardless of all our efforts people still do
human errors and with this process of notifying everyone of the type mix,
the buddy of the MOD, the diver verification with the contents tape and the
protective device it is doing all that is humanly possible to avoid
breathing the wrong gas concentration.

Again the incident you are referencing has nothing to do with IANTD
It was not an IANTD dive
It was not an IANTD diver
It was not following IANTD cylinder contents identification standards

The diver made a human error which proved to be fatal, this is what we are
all trying to avoid it is the reason we have the labeling standards we do.
It is
certainly the safest method to cover all basses.

Now the real problem is making divers follow these safety procedures (or
even yours) outside of a class or a project.

We have taken steps to have our facilities start tight enforcement of these
issues. However this does not cover those who do their own nor non
facilities al we can do is hope they will follow these or similar
procedure(including yours).

Unfortunately many of the more experienced divers are the ones who
tend to ignore these practices when diving on their own. A fact history has
already proven.

Respectfully yours,
Tom Mount
CEO IANTD World HQ
http://www.iantd.com

-----Original Message-----
From: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
Cc: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>;
cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>; techdiver@aq*.co*
<techdiver@aq*.co*>; tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*
<tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III


>Ken, try talking to your dog - at least he will wag his tail. To talk to
>this guy and his "board of advisors" you need a translator - see
>Rennaker and have him bring some of his farm animal buddies to do the
>talking, like Mr Ed or Elsie.
>
>Don't waate your breath, diving as we know it is done. Our organiztion
>may be the only survivor. Gavin prdicted this years ago, and Parker
>Turner took this to Tom years ago . It has only gotten worse.
>
>Ken Sallot wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> How many people have to fucking die before you get it through your thick
>> skull about how bottles should be marked? 60' on pure fucking oxygen?
>> What the hell gives with that shit?
>>
>> Ken Sallot
>> WKPP
>> --
>> "What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
>> is first-rate."
>>                       -- Doris Lessing
>>                        (British writer)
>
>
>

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