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Whae I took my intro/cavern and app/full cave I used a wet suit and steel hundreds. with 7 mil farmer john and full shorty jacket. No wheifghts needed , fresh water , w english light. Ok , I wear and milage will vary. The only time I felt over whieght was when staging the allum 80 saft/o@ bottle , and thAt was droped off quickly. Anywaty, I now have a dry suit , so that piont is moot , dry is nice and toasty , espacialy on deco. In ocen , with a dui cf200 and double hp steel hundreds and by english light , I need no whieghts. I can do my 10 all way down. However peaple have to realize that each diver is diffrent , and there fore that rigging will need to change. Another Diver can very well be way overwhighted with allum 80s and a wet suit , especialy with an english light. This strokery has to stop with the bullshit artist selling garbage to the unsuspecting. That down right wrong. Why push the "bondege" wings when diveright plian wings are more sustablke and cheaper . That give more money to put into the proper gear. It then gets criminal when safty is involved. After taking full cave , It became obviose how much was wrong , and how much bullshit is going on. That was before DIR was popular and well known. The fact that the instructor told me what needed to be fixed , and that if it was not fixed to HIS satisfaction , he would not give me a c card. He made every effort to help me fix the problem , even lent me a bunch of mask for an afternoot to try on at ginnie , till I found one that did not leadk. Turned out the leadking mask was task loading me and every thing esle just snowballed from there. One the problem was fixed , every thing came together , no taskloading , no nerviosness ect... Every thing then went as planed , right on the money. He NEVER pushed the house brand. REAMENED what works regarles of whi sold it , and told me whare I could find it. He had his hight standards , and kept to them , You either meet them , or you would not get your c card . If you had to come back for another week of instruction a few months later , then so be it. Do it proper , or no card. I learned more in that boot camp that I did in 5 years of off shore NE diving. Especialy re gear and mothods and planning. After that no more silt outs . None. He showed me where my limits were , and helped me to realize when to pull back. At 06:35 AM 4/27/1999 EDT, you wrote: ><<We ( WKPP) do NOT use integrated weight nor do we use steel backplates >with almuminum when diving wet in the ocean. >> >George, > Shur right about one thing, Don't use steel tanks with a wet suit, I >tried it and I'm way to heavy; the BC needed to be keeped full for good >bouyancy. I reread my post and it certainly didn't clearify what I meant. >If it's warm enough, I go with a minimum amount of insulation: just a cheater >vest and shorts, steel bakeplate and no weight belt (this might change to an >aluminum backeplate and 4 lb a weight belt, I'll try it). Hell, if it's >colder than 70 degrees, I almost allways use a drysuit. > > <<If we are using a drysuit and aluminum, then the integrated v weight and >the steel plate can ofset the suit, but then the problem is that if you take >the tanks off in the water to clip off to a tag line in rough weather, they >are at risk of being lost. I would rather lose a weightbelt.>> > A set of aluminum tanks with a v-weight and a steel backplate, will weigh >almost as much as a set of steel 104's. A boat that is rocking isn't easy to >walk on without gear on. I'm not shur there will be much of a difference >between steel or aluminum tanks because you still need the weight to keep you >down, and so you'll be carryng that weight. Moving the weight from the back >to the waist may help some. Perhaps my solution ( for cold water and thick >insulation ) is to use an aluminum backplate with a 6 lb belt, thus, the >ditchable weight-belt. see below > >point in fact- > Yesterday, Sunday we dove the Mexecana. Allmost 140 feet to the sand ( >no, I didn't touch the sand), 51 degree water. I wore Polar Bear underwear, >drysuit, steel 104's, steel 20 cf 100%, and a steel backplate. > At the end of the dive, I clip off the steel 20 cf 100 % bottle to a gear >line @ 10 feet, and then, I'm neutral with less than 1000 psi left and no >air in the BC. > I could not have gotten much more air out of my drysuit. Aluminum tanks >just wouldn't weigh enough; Unless! I added enough v-weigh to make them >weigh as much as a set of steel 104's. > >BTW That Polar Bear Underwear is thick thinsulate, Real thick, and wwwaarrmm > > > sincerely, > Randy > >
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