Listen, soon the DIR's will outnumber the insane and ludicrous 'tech diver'
community. Just make sure you have enough bottles and doubles for anywhere
that you go. Keep filling that stuff yourself and for your students.  Forget
the industry, they have no need to change anything due to the monetary gain.
If you and the few others out there keep doing it right, then most will
follow. This will happen because all that notice you and your students will
wonder how simplistic it all really can become.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: <NAUItec@ao*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>; <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Cc: <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>; <J-Scott.Landon@us*.du*.co*>;
<armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>; Robert Carmichael
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techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: Teaching Tank Marking


> This is a real crock. "Industry Standards" are idiocy by idiots, mean
> nothing, and have no authority what so ever. Maybe one of these geniuses
> can tell you how and IANTD "nitrox" sticker on a tank tells you anything
> about the condition of the tank for filling. Maybe they can explain the
> logic of cleaning and stickering due to "safety concerns" and then
> telling people to fill them to the brim with oxygen and then blow air on
> for a few humdred psi to make the ridiculously stupid "80/20" mix.
>
>   Maybe IANTD should require the gas companies to oxygen clean the
> storage cylinders and slap sickers on them before delivery each time,
> and for the dive shops to do the same to their banks and compressors,
> and to do the same to each tank before each fill.
>
>   This is all bullshit, and you have correctly identified it as such.
>
>    The answer is to go to dive shops where the stupidiy factor is
> minimal, or to run your show in a fashion that relieves the customer of
> the burden of dealing with stupid people. Most tech divers are going to
> be the more upscale players, people with educations , real jobs, and
> real disposable income for play time. These people are sick of dealing
> with dive shop primates and cretin-like "instructors" who are ruining
> their fun and making their sport dangerous while hoodwinking them and
> screwing them over with bad advice, worthless "instruction" and crap
> gear. Sooner or later the pressure of doing things properly and in a way
> that makes sense will prevail.
>
>   We have no such problems in Ft Lauderdlae. I can fill my stuff
> anyplace, anytime, any way I want. The idiots do not do the volume of
> business that the real players do. Money talks, bullshit walks in this
> as in eveything else. The Golden Rule will dictate - "he who has the
> gold makes the rules". The tech divers have the gold, the bozons need to
> take a seat and service them properly.
>
>   We make the rules, not the half wits who need to get their lazy asses
> to the boat and the shop early Saturday morning so we can go diving,
> just like I get to my job and do what my customers want without jerking
> them around.
>
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
> >
> > Sir,
> >
> >         Sorry to beat a dead horse but with the recent postings of Tank
> > markings, I have a question I can't quite answer.  I teach Technical
> > diving in XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.  At the time I teach for IANTD.  Personally
I
> > agree with your standards for tank marking and even go so far as to
> > practice these standards when I make my dives.  My question is this, How
> > can we propogate the DIR philosophy when standards for the technical
> > agencies requires us to do differently.  I agree the unreal amount of
> > tank stickers required by standards is foolish, but what choice do I
> > have if industry standards say the tanks have to be marked in such a way
> > or they can't be filled.  I can fill my tanks, and the people who come
> > to me can get fills without a problem but many facilities won't touch a
> > tank without the $25 in stickers in their "proper locations."  I'm
> > afraid the students I teach if diving at the coast won't be able to get
> > service everywhere if they follow my, actually your recommendations.
> > Any thoughts on the idea.
> >
> >         My only thoughts are put up with the hassle of service if using
DIR
> > philosopies or put up with the hassle of labeling to get service
> > everywhere.  Thanks in advance.
> >
> >                                                 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>

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