AND NOW BACK TO DIVING!!!!!!!

THANK YOU

Jim Cobb wrote:

> The KEY WORD, my boys, here is MICROSOFT. Arent you people getting a
> little sick and tired of being Bill Gates zombies and getting screwed by
> every evil little prick who has figured out in all of 5 mins how to make
> a virus using Bill Gates' fucked up microsoft macros?
>
> "OOOoooh OOOoooh I got a WINDOWS machine so I can be JUST like everybody
> else, after all Everybody MUST be right, right?"
>
> suckers...
>
>  Jim
>
> Sender: backgas  Date: 4/22/99 5:20 PM
>
> >Kevin,
> >
> >I hope you do not DIVE like you read.......
> >
> >The email I sent previously was basically what you worded in your email.
> >Email is only text in the body and subject unless an attachment is included.
> >And as far a hole or security bug being in the email client program this
> >still does not provide for a viri file to infect a client, it may provide
> >for resources to be maximized through buffer overflows.  For every bug or
> >hole you think you might be able to name in MS Outlook or Outlook Express I
> >can name one in any other email client program as well. (Including my email
> >client, which is the Sendmail Program on any Unix platform)
> >
> >Considering my background I would say that I have knowledge in Email, (I am
> >currently the Internet Postmaster, and provide Network Security services at
> >a company that provides email for 14000 users), I have also created three
> >viruses for testing purposes for Symantec.
> >
> >I do agree with your Darwin statement, but I also believe in what I was told
> >as a child, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ BEFORE YOU INSERT YOUR FOOT IN YOUR
> >MOUTH.
> >
> >Ed Powell
> >Network Security Engineer
> >backgas@ta*.rr*.co*
> >"Good pings come in small packets"
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 4:43 PM
> >To: vbtech@ci*.co*
> >Cc: backgas; cavers@cavers.com
> >Subject: RE: EMAIL VIRUS MY ASS
> >
> >
> >badgas - Thank you for this most valuable information.  Actually, you are
> >both wrong.
> >
> >The problem here is that the email virus email is a hoax.  Reading an email
> >will not infect a system, except in some extreme situations where there is
> >a security hole (bug) in the email client.
> >
> >I believe viruses encoded in emails is simply another example of darwin's
> >principles at work.  Anyone STUPID enough to open an attachment from
> >someone they don't know deserves the virus.  Similarly, anyone LAME enough
> >to be using microsoft outlook for an email client deserves whatever that
> >brings.  (Usually just system crashes and lack of resources, but the
> >occasional virus, too)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 03:34 PM 4/22/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >>This is not entirely accurate as viruses can be caused by several different
> >>file types, not only executables. Once a email is sent and then the
> >>attachment is opened a viri can then infect the host, an example is If I
> >>sent you a word document that contained macro viruses (not executable) it
> >is
> >>a virus that only will attack other documents, such as text files, document
> >>files and spreadsheet files as well through the use of the macro program.
> >>The macro virus also may utilize other programs on your computer such as
> >the
> >>Melissa virus in that when a user opens an infected document, the virus
> >will
> >>attempt to e-mail a copy of this document to up to 50 other people, using
> >>Microsoft Outlook. This is not an executable it is done by opening a word
> >>document received through email. It only does the mass mailing once by
> >>checking registry keys.
> >>
> >>Other samples of what is thought to be viruses such are
> >>Happy99 Worm Program
> >>Promail.Trojan
> >>Hoaxes
> >>
> >>These are just as they state they are trojans, worms, and hoaxes similar to
> >>viruses but different. To get accurate information regarding these subjects
> >>you can research these at the Computer Incident Advisory web site hosted by
> >>the US Dept. of Energy at http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html there
> >>are several other sites that are resourceful as Jesse stated below, and
> >also
> >>as Jesse stated below Email itself does not cause viruses only opening
> >>attachments in Email can in fact cause the start of a viri. Please note
> >that
> >>email is not the only method that viri can be received as if you are a user
> >>that utilizes other services through networks (includes dialup) such as
> >FTP,
> >>you can then receive viri as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ed Powell
> >>Network Security Engineer
> >>backgas@ta*.rr*.co*
> >>"Good pings come in small packets"
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jess Armantrout [mailto:armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*]
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:19 AM
> >>To: Randylabel@ao*.co*; cavers@cavers.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> >>Subject: EMAIL VIRUS MY ASS
> >>
> >>
> >>AAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH
> >>
> >>The "virus" is the fact that this shit keeps getting sent around.
> >>
> >>Once again, boys and girls, and please repeat after me:
> >>
> >>emails do not cause viruses, executables files, often attached to emails,
> >>cause viruses when executed.
> >>
> >>Forward THIS letter out to as many people as you can.
> >>
> >>for much more info, go to
> >>
> >>http://kumite.com/myths/
> >>
> >>and specifically
> >>
> >>http://www.stiller.com/guts.htm
> >>
> >>for info on this an other virus hoaxes and don't post this crap to a list
> >>until you check there first.
> >>
> >>trout
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Randylabel@ao*.co* <Randylabel@ao*.co*>
> >>To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>; vbtech@ci*.co*
> >><vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >>Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:01 AM
> >>Subject: Fwd:
> >>
> >>
> >>>a friend set me this, so i'm just passing along the info
> >>>
> >>>     Randy
> >>>
> >>><< Subject: VIRUS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> WARNING!
> >>>
> >>> IF YOU RECEIVE AN EMAIL TITLED "IT TAKES GUTS TO SAY JESUS".
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT OPEN IT.
> >>>
> >>> IT WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR HARD DRIVE.
> >>>
> >>> THIS INFORMATION WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY MORNING FROM IBM; AOL STATES
> >THAT
> >>> THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS, MUCH WORSE THAN "MELISSA" AND THAT THERE
> >>IS
> >>> NO REMEDY FOR IT AT THIS TIME. SOME VERY SICK INDIVIDUAL HAS SUCCEEDED IN
> >>> USING THE RE-FORMAT FUNCTION FROM NORTON UTILITIES CAUSING IT TO
> >>COMPLETELY
> >>> ERASE ALL DOCUMENT ON THE HARD DRIVE.  IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO WORK WITH
> >>> NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR AND MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER.  IT DESTROYS
> >MACINTOSH
> >>> AND IBM COMPATIBLE COMPUTERS.
> >>>
> >>> THIS IS A NEW, VERY MALICIOUS VIRUS AND NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
> >>> PASS THIS WARNING ALONG TO EVERYONE ON YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND PLEASE SHARE
> >>> IT WITH ALL YOUR ONLINE FRIENDS ASAP SO THAT THIS THREAT MAY BE STOPPED.
> >>> PLEASE PRACTICE CAUTIONARY MEASURES AND TELL ANYONE THAT MAY HAVE ACCESS
> >>> TO YOUR COMPUTER.  FORWARD THIS WARNING TO EVERYONE THAT MIGHT ACCESS THE
> >>> INTERNET.
> >>>  >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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