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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "Ken Sallot" <sallot@mi*.co*>
Cc: "techdiver" <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>,
     "Cost effective home improvement"
Subject: GUE - the answer to Re: RIGHT AGAIN wasRe: [Fwd: Rob Palmer's demise]
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:06:25 -0400
John Bantin's real story about Palmer is a dramatic eye opener, especially
in view of all of the hypocritical righteous indignation from the TDI crowd
after it occurred.   The cover up surrounding this incident was one of the
great classics of disinformation and bs ever.  This incident in particular
was an important catalyst in the war against deep air and perhaps, in my
opinion,  marked the begiining of end for TDI.

Unfortunately, these lessons never seem to be fully learned. After the well
publicized bottle marking related deaths of the past two years we have
another fine example of training agency related incompetence. This example
is pitched to us as a heroic rescue by technical diver extraordinaire Kevin
Gurr (IANTD UK representative). The diver under instruction breaths an
unanalyzed, unmarked bottle of gas (can you believe that such idiocy is
still tolerated by IANTD?) and suffers a near death accident. Most of the
discussion involved blaming the dive shop. The real culprit in this classic
piece of bozonity was none other than the instructor and the training agency
which allows this buffoonery. This incident is like the arsonist fireman who
proudly shows up on the scene with an extinguisher after personally setting
the blaze.

It is my opinion that these training agencies have either got to go or get
reorganized or disbanded.  There is still a hidden deep air agenda in both
agencies and an obvious refusal to do even the most basic things right,
particularly as relates to bottle markings. This attitude of resistance to
tried and proven common sense is totally incomprehensible. Fortunately,
there is a great hope and that is Global Underwater Explorers (GUE).  GUE is
not plagued by false pride or stubborn revisonism and encompasses not only
DIR, but a vast knowledge base and staff, which unlike the sad lesson of the
Bantin article, practices what they preach.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
<cavers@cavers.com>; Cost effective home improvement
<freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 6:22 AM
Subject: RIGHT AGAIN wasRe: [Fwd: Rob Palmer's demise]


>I was right about Palmer , TDI, and all the rest, again. By the way,
>after taking PSI.net to court, we were able to extract the name of the
>scumbag who sent the fake email out in my name. Stay tuned, now we are
>going to set the record straight in a fashion that nobody will ever
>forget.
>
>You all know who it was. Anyone who participated in anything to do with
>that better get ready.
>
>Ken Sallot wrote:
>>
>> http://www.divernet.com/profs/palmer399.htm
>> --
>> "What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
>> is first-rate."
>>                       -- Doris Lessing
>>                        (British writer)
>
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