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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:38:16 -0500
To: cavers@cavers.com
From: Charles Ayash <cagraphics@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: Candidate improvement
From what I have experienced and witnessed is 
students Who take the Cavern/Intro Course and
are already used to doubles are at this point
Apprentice Level divers (Instructors Discretion)

I believe that this really comes down to the 
Instructor sceening and evaluating the diver

I have seen divers take C/I and were ready for
an Apprentice card.
and I have seen myself show up for a Full Cave course
Not ready by virtue of needing 70 or more dives
and having poor skills.

Some Instructors are liberal, 
and some just dont care they just want to crank out a cert.
and a few Expect you to be READY. They demand the best
from their Students, and they give their students thir best in return.





At 07:19 PM 2/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I think it's a mistake to be taught the way described below.  People should be
comfortable in doubles even before they hit the water for cave classes.  You
probably won't learn much about cave diving if your trying to get the feel for
new equipment.  (Especially converting over to doubles)  We need some serious
changes made.
>
>
>Brian Fairbanks
>I pity the guys who show up for full cave and
>    have to totally convert from OW singles gear.  Too many new
>    things all at once.  Remove some of the variables on your own time,
>    ahead of the class.  
>    Best of luck,
>    Mike
>    
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>taught the way described below.  People should be comfortable in doubles 
>even before they hit the water for cave classes.  You probably won't
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>much about cave diving if your trying to get the feel for new equipment.  
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>    OW singles gear.  Too many new<BR>things all at once.  Remove
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>    of the variables on your own time,<BR>ahead of the class. 
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