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I don't think you understood me. I said teaching trimix and cave at the
same time, not sequentially.

 I would say that people who have only dove gas in the cave environment,
emphasis on the only, should be hesitant and
take baby steps diving gas in a cave, and only if they are good cave
divers to begin with. Vice-versa is true also. Cave divers had better
understand the implications and differences diving gas in the ocean before
they jump in to do the Doria or whatever. Even PADI understands this when
they tell OW students that they are only certified in the environment in
which they trained. Come to think of it maybe the same thing should go for
the guys certified in the 20 ft deep and warm as pee Mexican caves. 

Regardless, there are too many guys with 10-15 dives going out and buying
serious gear and signing up for a cavern through full cave course in a
week. Even worse there are twice as many ex-SEAL instructors ready to give
them the blessing of a c-card.

In my opinion the best solution is what JJ has done, making the classes
more intensive and comprehensive, and the loyalty that his students show
to the method confirms the superiority of his concepts in teaching. I
think GUE will come as close to my idea of a perfect situation, long term
mentorship, as can be done commercially.

But thats just my opinion.


 Drew Glasbrenner	
USF Geology Program	
aglasbr1@br*.ac*.us*.ed*

> 
> Drew;
> What does one have to do with the other, aside from the fact that cave
> may, and mix does, require decompression? One is a technique/skill
> class, the other is a gas class. I knew divers who were trimix certified
> for ocean dives and then later went for cave.
> 
> Either way, it is truely pathetic that the diver in question could get
> into a cave class with only 6 o/w classes. 
> 
> Regards
> Peter
> 

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