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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:18:45 -0500
From: Mark Hanes <sumamax@er*.co*>
To: Grady Richardson <grichardson@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: "John E. Ivanic NACD#1648" <ivanic@di*.ne*>, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Qualifications to take cave course
Grady Richardson wrote:
> 
> John
> Besides the guys obvious lack of experience, it sounds as if he skipped
> cavern, intro, and apprentice levels. Hopefully no instructor would allow
> that. But its no worse than someone going on to become an OW instructor
> with only six dives. The instrucror would have the potential to affect a
> lot more divers than the caver.
> 
> The cave instructor probably didn't want to loose the business, if he
> didn't teach him somebody else would. The certifying agencies have minimal
> (Adv.OW, about six dives) entry requirements. Not a good situation for the
> sport. Most people spread out  their courses over months or years for
> various reasons (experience and money are two). Some people, OTOH, blast
> through in a couple of weeks (got the money, can't wait to dive).
> 
> This situation probably  occures more than it should. The agencies and
> individual instructors will have to address this problem. Unfortunately
> they probably won't. Just hope for the best for  the new caver and his
> buddies.
> 
> Grady
> 
> At 04:26 PM 1/31/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >No names mentioned, but I was in a discussion today regarding the
> >experience of open water divers before their cave course.  I know of one
> >guy who had six open water dives and was accepted into a full cave
> >course and received his certification.  Comments?
> >
> >John Ivanic
> >ivanic@di*.ne*
> >
> >
The hell with clearing a mask....in 1972 when you took an open water
course tou had to "lose" all your gear at the bottom of the pool with a
black taped mask and retrieve it to pass. my cave instructor ...of
course had us swim long distances without the luxury of a mask...which
is as it should be.
death is death
Mark

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