Tom, you sure looked hard to find Stone's crappy maps - I could not find
them until I looked everywhere after Mouth's glowing review.

None of you want to get the picture here - the WKPP has spent years and
lives exploring these caves. Stone is a pretending dillatante with a lot
of money to blow. He spent 37 days getting that pathetic map. That
represents nothing compared to what we have mapped. 

He will not see 90% of that, and he does not know it exists. Notice his
wonder at seeing a tunnel with the mapper - he better get used to that,
there are over 30 of them, and we smoked them all, leaving him nothing
within human reason to explore.

Tom, we run miles every time we dive there - he does miles in the basin.
We do the same thing everywhere, everytime. We have no abortions, no
clusters, no excuses - we get it done.

We all have our own gear, we all pay our own way. These guys are a joke.
I realize that you are all hoping for somebody  to show me up, but then
don't you think they should start by doing what it would take to do just
that, rather than bullshitting around like they are? What kind of
example would it set if they did get lucky? Would it warm your little
heart to know that it takes a million bucks, $17,000 ccr's, bells ,
chambers, $30,000 scooters etc to get a level playing field with what I
can do in my sleep? Do you think it is impresive that these strokes have
not even gotten within half the distance that I went on my first dive in
the cave ? Are you impresed that these pathetic fools have not gotten to
where Steve Irving and Bill Gavin laid the line to in our one allotted
dive in 1991 on TEKNA DV 3X'S AND A FREAKING STAGE?

These guys suck , in plain English, and no amount of lying, dancing
prancing or bullshitting will ever get them anywhere near what we do -
ever. What we do and the way we do it is available to anyone anywhere -
you do not need a million bucks or Jim King's money or anything else to
do what we do in any cave, and our affilaited groups around the world
prove that every day. What Stone is doing does nobody any good but
Stone.


Thomas A. Easop wrote:
> 
> KVI wrote:
> 
> > Thomas A. Easop wrote: how great the maps are, and how bad we are.
> 
> Chill out George. I said I liked the maps, I did not say anyone was bad. As
> for your other maps, I haven't seen them yet. I did not see links to more
> maps at your site. I will go look.
> 
> >
> >
> > Tom, the maps on Stone's web page are crap compared to our sonar maps,
> > and we do in fact not only have 3d maps limked to our maps on U of
> > Wyomings's site, we have wire frame and moveble maps that tell the real
> > tale. The sonar runs we made recently are only shown in cross section,
> > the maps on the Sun Micro machine are complete.
> >
> > We DID map the whole system, Tom. It has already been done. That is past
> > tense, Tom. If you can read Stone's map, you are one cleaver guy, since
> > I know that cave better than any peson alive and the map is garbage. His
> > mapper obviously has little or no power at all - the dope must have the
> > tranducers inside the hull of the scooter or something. Also, his
> > "inertial navigation' is not working too well.
> >
> > I can see how you and Tom Mouth would be impressed .

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