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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:39:59 -0500, you wrote: The word I got was that this was a cave fatality in name only.. i.e., that it happened in a cave.. the diver embolised, probably due to high flow & poor buoyancy control.Gear didn't matter, overhead environment training didn't matter...An uncontrolled ascent=3D a potentially dead diver, no matter where it happens. 95 feet in Little River puts you at least at the bottom of the chimney approaching Table Rock..the vertical flow is very strong from there to the 30' level.Add in the stress level of a diver who knows he's somewhere he shouldn't be, turn up the heat, and you've baked a perfect accident profile. =20 >>=20 >> The OW instructor was cave certified. He'd taken his friend of 13 = years, >> who he certified for OW 5 years ago, along with two others into the = cavern >> zone for a "fun dive". He claims that they were supposed to wait for = him >> there, but instead they followed him into the cave. >>=20 >> At 05:55 AM 1/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >I have stopped following the accidents - there are too many. Dive >> >instruction has hit an all time low - that is all I have to say. >> > >> >Adam Weiner wrote: >> >> >> >> George, >> >> >> >> Do you have any info regarding the trust me dive that happened up= at >> >> little river the other day. Such as if this was indeed a dumbass >> >> instructor taking some buddies on a trust me cave dive or if it was= a >> >> class ect. From what I have seen about this stupid death one diver = an >> >> instructor had doubles and the other three had single 80's. The = divers >> >> entered the cave and past two cavers on the way in and a few = minutes >> >> later the came out of the cave with one diver unconscious with the = reg >> >> not in mouth and was DOA at the surface. The computer on the = deceased >> >> said that they had been to 95 feet I think. >> >> >> >> Thanks for whatever info you have in advance, >> >> Adam Weiner In general,"trust me" dives suck, whether they're cave dives or OW dives.You know what you're capable of, or you don't.. you know what the dive requires, or you don't. A "trust me" dive means you believe someone else knows these things, knows YOU as well as you do.. there are maybe two other people I trust this much underwater, both of whom I've dove with for more than 20 years. Otherwise, NOTHING replaces a gradual accumulation of skills & experience,repetition & advancement. There are no one-week wonders, just accidents waiting to happen. Take Care John Dunk o Lake City,Fl o screwloo@is*.ne* ____o_____
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