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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 05:51:02 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: offrope@pt*.ne*
CC: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: is this a contradiction?
Dave, the bigger contradiction is having a dry caver like Stone running
a diving project. This would be like me coming up there and trying to
show you how to dry cave -  I wouldn't even think of it. I would be too
afraid of what I do not know just as he should be with what he is
attempting. If I did want to dry cave, I would go to the known best and
try to learn, like I did with cave diving - it paid off. When I did go
dry caving for a week, I did it with Richard Knopf and Roger Brucker and
his son, and did nothing but listen to what they had to teach me. This
was not vertical caving like you, but the easier stuff.

To specificly answer your question, you have bingoed on why no cave
divers are involved in Stone's project - nothing but contradictions.
He is under pressure to produce his map, and has been caught trying to
promote rebreathers instead. The cave has so many pasages and so much
footage, 95% of which is beyond where he has been able to go in 34 days
that there is no way anything of significance will be mapped.

Besides, we already mapped it, and the cave radios that he claims as new
technolgy aare as old as the pipe in Little River ( that is how it was
placed). We use them to verify survey where there are no openings. 

So far, our survey of Wakulla, which is not in anyones hands but mine,
matches and closes with itself and with Cherokee Sink, among other
things. Leon Sinks only required a 200 foot correction over a ten mile
run, and the Big Dismal/Cheryl Sink survey was corrected two weeks ago
when we reran the dive and matches four known surface features. We were
merely missing 700 feet which had not been surveyed the first time, but
we knew it before the dive ( that is was missing ).

Good point .


Dave Hollick wrote:
> 
> Did anyone else notice that on today's Wak2 update page the first
> paragraph mentions that they had a mapping mission planned for
> today, which was called off due to a burglary - yet the next
> paragraph says that instead Stone had a MAPPER TRAINING
> lesson for his lead divers?  Does that sound odd to anyone?
> 
> What do I know, though.  As someone will surely point out, I'm just
> a dry caver.  This just seemed out-of-place to me.
> 
> Dave Hollick
> Dave Hollick
> offrope@pt*.ne*


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