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Mike this is another example of how stupid thes guys are . I put my
bottles in ther based on what I know it will take me from experience -
these guys could not dive that place on oc, I have done ten grand in
there on oc.
The experience vs bullshit is what keeps me from even being polite to
strokes like Stone.
The other thing thess idiots hav not figured out is what happens to
buoyancy when you get light on gas in an emergency. The more we see of
how stupid Stone is, the more we have to question why he is allowed to
do this in the first place.
There is gong to be a huge accident here , sooner or later, and now I am
betting there will nver be any map.
mike bruic wrote:
>
> George---make sure your not drinking anything before you read this, it may
> end up all over your keyboard and screen. The wak-me-to team has decided to
> use 80's and smaller for the drive gas on the RB. Why, lp steal tanks are to
> "heavy" (Jason use's hp composite tanks with lead clamped to them). They
> have safeties in the cave, about every 1000', because they heard thats "how"
> you do it, but then, I don't think the first one of them knows what their
> sac is, and I have watched them take up to 5 minutes to switch a bottle and
> get back underway. The thing that really scares me, is even if they were
> lucky enough to get to the first deco stop, they do not have enough gas in
> the basin, and air is not a good deco gas. Stones solution for the deco
> problem was, when you come out of the cave with a problem, let him know via
> the underwater communications (Jason can't figure out how to use it), and he
> will have somebody bring you another RB.
>
> Mike Bruic
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: mike bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
> Cc: rebreather@nw*.co* <rebreather@nw*.co*>; techdiver
> <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>;
> freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>; Bill Mee
> <wwm@sa*.ne*>; Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 5:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Tales From The Dark Side #5 ("Help" I'm drowning, and I can't
> get up)
>
> >Mike, this guys is desparate to prove something, and so far all he has
> >done is prove me correct in every aspect. To "explore" in that cave
> >requires a one way trip of at leaast two hours , and that stuff is
> >nasty. The good stuff is a 6 hour roundtrip. He ain't goin' there.
> >
> >We put THREE bottles, one for each diver, every 1000 feet. When we did
> >the 18 grand dive, we had 33 safeties in the cave, the last of which
> >were on us and the second to last were sitting at 14,000 feet. We also
> >had twin 160's on us and a drive bottle, and our rebreather is
> >mechanical and has no electronics.
> >
> >We come back from our dives, and we get the job done. Stone does not
> >understand any of that. We also did about 9 hours of deco, a trick that
> >he will never be able to learn. We used four scooters each and several
> >staged safety scooters.
> >
> >We do this and do it right. We have done it succedssfully for years. We
> >do it everywhere like this - that is why we have the end of the line in
> >everything.
> >
> >If we had 28 days at Wakulla, we would be out in the Gulf of Mexico by
> >now.
> >
> >All we will see from "Wakulla Too" is lies.
> >
> >mike bruic wrote:
> >>
> >> Stone--- This one would be best answered by "you". Could you please
> >> tell us how your emergency OC bailout system works for Deco, with only
> >> 2 bottles of 10/90 at 210', and then only 2 more bottles of "AIR" at
> >> 100' when some of your teams have 3 divers on them (you use to have
> >> that many divers). This is not even enough gas to bring one man to the
> >> surface after only a hour bottom time with the deco schedule you use,
> >> let alone 3. Why do you only have "AIR" at 100'?? Wouldn't "Nitrox" be
> >> Better?? I know, at our last team meeting that I went to, you said we
> >> should all get away from this open circuit crap, it will limit or
> >> exploration capabilities, or something like that. Stone, when the shit
> >> hits the fan, OC works!!! Even a "lab rat" like Jason can figure that
> >> one out, OPP's I forgot about the bell thing, maybe he can't. Tomorrow
> >> #6 (Damm, were along way from Kansas tito).
> >>
> >> Mike Bruic
> >
> >
> >
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