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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:53:03 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: mike bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
CC: rebreather@nw*.co*, techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>,
     cavers@cavers.com, freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*,
     Bill Mee ,
     Jess Armantrout
Subject: Re: Tales From The Dark Side #5 ("Help" I'm drowning, and I can't get up)
Mike, this guys is desparate to prove something, and so far all he has
done is prove me correct in every aspect. To "explore" in that cave
requires a one way trip of at leaast two hours , and that stuff is
nasty. The good stuff is a 6 hour roundtrip. He ain't goin' there.

We put THREE bottles, one for each diver, every 1000 feet. When we did
the 18 grand dive, we had 33 safeties in the cave, the last of which
were on us and the second to last were sitting at 14,000 feet. We also
had twin 160's on us and a drive bottle, and our rebreather is
mechanical and has no electronics.

We come back from our dives, and we get the job done. Stone does not
understand any of that. We also did about 9 hours of deco, a trick that
he will never be able to learn. We used four scooters each and several
staged safety scooters. 

We do this and do it right. We have done it succedssfully for years. We
do it everywhere like this - that is why we have the end of the line in
everything.

If we had 28 days at Wakulla, we would be out in the Gulf of Mexico by
now.

All we will see from "Wakulla Too" is lies.

mike bruic wrote:
> 
> Stone--- This one would be best answered by "you". Could you please
> tell us how your emergency OC bailout system works for Deco, with only
> 2 bottles of 10/90 at 210', and then only 2 more bottles of "AIR" at
> 100' when some of your teams have 3 divers on them (you use to have
> that many divers). This is not even enough gas to bring one man to the
> surface after only a hour bottom time with the deco schedule you use,
> let alone 3. Why do you only have "AIR" at 100'?? Wouldn't "Nitrox" be
> Better?? I know, at our last team meeting that I went to, you said we
> should all get away from this open circuit crap, it will limit or
> exploration capabilities, or something like that. Stone, when the shit
> hits the fan, OC works!!! Even a "lab rat" like Jason can figure that
> one out, OPP's I forgot about the bell thing, maybe he can't. Tomorrow
> #6 (Damm, were along way from Kansas tito).
> 
> Mike Bruic


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