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From: pegasus1@ne*.co* (Peter Clarke)
To: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>, <techdive@ea*.ne*>,
    
Cc: "cavers" <cavers@cavers.com>,
     "\"Cost effective home improvement\""
Subject: Re: More USDCTisms
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:21:51 -0500
 Bill, if you are trying to tell me that this guy Walker is an idiot, well I
think that is pretty obvious. What I want to know is what the "lies" are.
One guy wrote me and said that you said he had 80/20 on his boat and no
oxygen, and he says this is a lie, as he had oxygen. I am not interested in
semantics. I want to know what the lies are, and why these deive isntructors
are so panicked about you guys. I am getting really suspicious of the
obvious conclusion here, unless this Walker can convince me otherhrwise.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: Peter Clarke <pegasus1@ne*.co*>; techdive@ea*.ne*
<techdive@ea*.ne*>; techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>
Cc: cavers <cavers@cavers.com>; "Cost effective home improvement"
<freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: More USDCTisms


>Peter,
>
>One of the fascinating things about the techdiver and cavers list is the
>extensive diversity of participants.  We have scientists, explorers, dive
>industry professionals, just plain old regular people and also many fine
>upstanding psychologically challenged individuals. The latter group
includes
>an intriguing collection of rare and unique neurological deficits., some
>involving  traumatic disorders of the central nervous system. Among these
>fine examples we have neurolinquistic psychosis, paranoid schizophrenics,
>criminal psychotics, Down’s syndromes and a smattering of aquatic
mercantile
>subhominidism.
>
>On occasion you may observe an outburst from one of these folks, but please
>do not take this too seriously. By chance you have noticed a certain Johnny
>Walker, who has chosen to name himself after a well known alcoholic spirit.
>Walker occasionally lapses into a peculiar form of simian apoplexy and I
>would beg your sympathetic understanding in this regard. He, like everybody
>else, has a perfect right to express himself on this list and he really
does
>mean well. During his well documented delusional episodes he likes to rail
>against those he perceives as his tormentors.  He seems to have a special
>phobia for George Irvine and the WKPP, although to this day we have not
>diagnosed the cause of this particular disturbance.   Anecdotally, we were
>told, this was an unfortunate consequence of some botched pyscho surgery he
>underwent, while this practice was a popular remedy for schizophrenia in
the
>early 1950s.
>
>Johnny’s expletive reference to Dr. John Rose as a “suckass” must be
>understood within the context of his treatment. He evidences a violent
>hatred against  the well educated. People who have been involved in his
>treatment, especially “Doctors”, exacerbate his violent rage. At the
>facility where he is presently incarcerated he is occasionally known to
>violently attack his “therapists” and he must be firmly restrained during
>physician visitation. It was recently brought to the attention of the list
>that a renewed regimen of electro-convulsive therapy may provide a modicum
>of relief for his chronic dementia.  We are all hoping for a positive
>outcome from this new intervention.
>
>Peter, I hope this is not discouraging and you are not dissuaded from
>expressing your opinions or soliciting helpful information from the list.
>
>On a note of amusing irony we are told that, unlike Hannibal Lector, Johnny
>prefers his liver with Jim Beam.
>
>Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Clarke <pegasus1@ne*.co*>
>To: techdive@ea*.ne* <techdive@ea*.ne*>; techdiver@aq*.co*
><techdiver@aq*.co*>
>Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:46 AM
>Subject: Re: More USDCTisms
>
>
>>John, could you please tell me what "lies" George and WKPP have posted? I
>>would be interested since so far these guys have been the absolute best
>>source of diving information anywhere, and they certainly have
demonstrated
>>with their accomplishments that they know how to apply that information.
>>
>>Are you telling us that they 1) do not actually do these dives and are
>>"lying " about them?, 2) do not know what they are talking about and
>>therefor what they say coinstitutes "lies", or 3) you just do not believe
>>that what they are saying works, so it seems like "lies" to you?
>>
>>I would be very interested in your response to this, since I have
>"believed"
>>everything they said, but then I do not have any first hand exposure to
>>these guys, maybe you do and know something that I do not. Please inform
us
>>if we are on the wrong track here, I think you have a duty to do that,
>John.
>>
>>I do know that this guy Dr. John Rose that you are calling a "SUCKASS" is
a
>>math professor at the University of South Carolina. I have seen some of
his
>>work in other areas. I do not mean to be rude here, but maybe you can tell
>>us all what qualifies you to adress Dr. Rose in this fashion on a public
>>list?
>>
>>John, am I missing something here?
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
>>To: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>
>>Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: More USDCTisms
>>
>>
>>>John R. Rose wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ignorance has never stopped Pyle in the past. What do you expect from
>>>> a "Stone-head"?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Pyle, you do not know what the hell you are talking about. The line
>>they
>>>> > laid spans a total of 80 feet, and is 600 feet into the cave, 100
feet
>>>> > past where the cave drops from 200 feet to 270.
>>>> >
>>>> > Why don't you shut the hell up. You are nothing but a lying little
>>>> > shill, and a bulshitting idiot to boot. You have no clue what is
being
>>>> > discussed here, but your insticnt to lie takes over even when you are
>>>> > way out of your realm, which is bullshitting bullshitters about
>>>> > bullshit.
>>>> >
>>>> > Richard Pyle wrote:
>>>
>>> John Rose, what a suck ass you are.  Why can't you let Georgina post
>>>his own stuff to techdiver.  The fact is, George and the rest of you
>>>suckasses of Georges have posted more BULLSHIT fucking lies and
>>>presented more misconceptions on this list than anyone.  Its so ironic
>>>that George previously posted how much he respected Rich and NOW!,#%
>>>that Rich posted something contrary to Georges perspective towards the
>>>USDCT project, George retaliates by his usual suspect and calls Rich a
>>>lying little shill bul(l)shitting idiot.  You guys know a lot about
>>>diving but, YOUR FUCKING TWISTED!
>>>
>>>     Love, John
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>>
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>

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