Peter,

One of the fascinating things about the techdiver and cavers list is the
extensive diversity of participants.  We have scientists, explorers, dive
industry professionals, just plain old regular people and also many fine
upstanding psychologically challenged individuals. The latter group includes
an intriguing collection of rare and unique neurological deficits., some
involving  traumatic disorders of the central nervous system. Among these
fine examples we have neurolinquistic psychosis, paranoid schizophrenics,
criminal psychotics, Down’s syndromes and a smattering of aquatic mercantile
subhominidism.

On occasion you may observe an outburst from one of these folks, but please
do not take this too seriously. By chance you have noticed a certain Johnny
Walker, who has chosen to name himself after a well known alcoholic spirit.
Walker occasionally lapses into a peculiar form of simian apoplexy and I
would beg your sympathetic understanding in this regard. He, like everybody
else, has a perfect right to express himself on this list and he really does
mean well. During his well documented delusional episodes he likes to rail
against those he perceives as his tormentors.  He seems to have a special
phobia for George Irvine and the WKPP, although to this day we have not
diagnosed the cause of this particular disturbance.   Anecdotally, we were
told, this was an unfortunate consequence of some botched pyscho surgery he
underwent, while this practice was a popular remedy for schizophrenia in the
early 1950s.

Johnny’s expletive reference to Dr. John Rose as a “suckass” must be
understood within the context of his treatment. He evidences a violent
hatred against  the well educated. People who have been involved in his
treatment, especially “Doctors”, exacerbate his violent rage. At the
facility where he is presently incarcerated he is occasionally known to
violently attack his “therapists” and he must be firmly restrained during
physician visitation. It was recently brought to the attention of the list
that a renewed regimen of electro-convulsive therapy may provide a modicum
of relief for his chronic dementia.  We are all hoping for a positive
outcome from this new intervention.

Peter, I hope this is not discouraging and you are not dissuaded from
expressing your opinions or soliciting helpful information from the list.

On a note of amusing irony we are told that, unlike Hannibal Lector, Johnny
prefers his liver with Jim Beam.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Clarke <pegasus1@ne*.co*>
To: techdive@ea*.ne* <techdive@ea*.ne*>; techdiver@aq*.co*
<techdiver@aq*.co*>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: More USDCTisms


>John, could you please tell me what "lies" George and WKPP have posted? I
>would be interested since so far these guys have been the absolute best
>source of diving information anywhere, and they certainly have demonstrated
>with their accomplishments that they know how to apply that information.
>
>Are you telling us that they 1) do not actually do these dives and are
>"lying " about them?, 2) do not know what they are talking about and
>therefor what they say coinstitutes "lies", or 3) you just do not believe
>that what they are saying works, so it seems like "lies" to you?
>
>I would be very interested in your response to this, since I have
"believed"
>everything they said, but then I do not have any first hand exposure to
>these guys, maybe you do and know something that I do not. Please inform us
>if we are on the wrong track here, I think you have a duty to do that,
John.
>
>I do know that this guy Dr. John Rose that you are calling a "SUCKASS" is a
>math professor at the University of South Carolina. I have seen some of his
>work in other areas. I do not mean to be rude here, but maybe you can tell
>us all what qualifies you to adress Dr. Rose in this fashion on a public
>list?
>
>John, am I missing something here?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
>To: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>
>Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:28 PM
>Subject: Re: More USDCTisms
>
>
>>John R. Rose wrote:
>>>
>>> Ignorance has never stopped Pyle in the past. What do you expect from
>>> a "Stone-head"?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Pyle, you do not know what the hell you are talking about. The line
>they
>>> > laid spans a total of 80 feet, and is 600 feet into the cave, 100 feet
>>> > past where the cave drops from 200 feet to 270.
>>> >
>>> > Why don't you shut the hell up. You are nothing but a lying little
>>> > shill, and a bulshitting idiot to boot. You have no clue what is being
>>> > discussed here, but your insticnt to lie takes over even when you are
>>> > way out of your realm, which is bullshitting bullshitters about
>>> > bullshit.
>>> >
>>> > Richard Pyle wrote:
>>
>> John Rose, what a suck ass you are.  Why can't you let Georgina post
>>his own stuff to techdiver.  The fact is, George and the rest of you
>>suckasses of Georges have posted more BULLSHIT fucking lies and
>>presented more misconceptions on this list than anyone.  Its so ironic
>>that George previously posted how much he respected Rich and NOW!,#%
>>that Rich posted something contrary to Georges perspective towards the
>>USDCT project, George retaliates by his usual suspect and calls Rich a
>>lying little shill bul(l)shitting idiot.  You guys know a lot about
>>diving but, YOUR FUCKING TWISTED!
>>
>>     Love, John
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