Unfortunately Richie, You are not a very intelligent fellow and you have
been making that clear for quite some time.

Good luck with which you know little about. Try not to kill yourself either
diving or  spewing meaningless rebuttals.

Concerned with your lack of logic,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: Chris Werner <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>; Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
Cc: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; cavers
<cavers@cavers.com>; KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: More USDCTisms


>
>Boy, you are an intelligent fella, aren't you.
>
>Aloha,
>Rich
>
>Richard L. Pyle
>Ichthyology, Bishop Museum
>1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
>Ph: (808) 848-4115  Fax: (808) 847-8252
>email: deepreef@bi*.or*
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Werner [mailto:clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 2:23 AM
>> To: Richard Pyle; Bill Mee
>> Cc: Jess Armantrout; cavers; KVI
>> Subject: Re: More USDCTisms
>>
>>
>> We have a diving physiology
>> >workgroup consisting of myself, Joe, John Earle, Dave Pence (U.H. Diving
>> >Safety Officer), and Dr. Bob Overlock (Chamber guru for the state of
>> >Hawaii).  We meet about once a month to have serious discussions about
>> >particular aspects of diving physiology.  One of our first meetings
>> >discussed cutis marmorata.  We have it on videotape, if you'd
>> like to see a
>> >copy.
>>
>>
>> Richie, You say here you have a diving safety officer for UH and a
chamber
>> guru of the state. In all honesty, these guys have no idea what they are
>> talking about. The University Diving Safety Officers are consistently the
>> worst in the business. It's a network of good old boys, who consistently
>> back each other  up with some of the most ridiculous claim out there. The
>> AAUS standards are worse than IANTD as far as diver training, and to make
>> matters worse these guys consistently believe that they know what they
are
>> talking about. The simple fact is that most of them have convinced the
>> Universities and State's that due to liability of teaching that their
>> positions are necessary to head off any potential accidents. The
>> funny thing
>> is that they consistently are some of the worst instructors with very
>> limited experience and skill. My bet is that most of them join
>> the AAUS, so
>> that together they have a network to fall on and each of them back each
>> other  up. Its a very sad story. Go to any of the annual meeting
>> and see for
>> yourself. Claiming that you consult with these guys actually shows us how
>> little you know about what you are doing.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>

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