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Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:12:05 -0400
To: ALobster@ao*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: A note for JT from an Ultra Neophyte.
Hi LL
I'm sure the guys are very helpful to you, I do not think I have ever been 
on a dive that there was not at least one or two men willing to help the 
females. It is just the way it seems to happen.

have a nice day



  At 09:34 AM 4/9/03 -0400, ALobster@ao*.co* wrote:
>After sitting on my hands for several days to prevent a keyboard meltdown, 
>this morning I finally gave up and decided to post some comments regarding 
>my experiences of diving with Mike and Joe and AUE.
>First Regarding years of experience and dives:Let me see now, I have been 
>diving for 27 years, by my calculation that makes Mike Barnette either 3 
>or 4 years old when I started.   I'm sorry Joe, I think you were a bit 
>older but not by much :-).   In the past couple of years that I have been 
>diving with these guys, and in fact any of the guys in AUE, I have learned 
>more about real diving than I probably learned in the previous 25.  I have 
>never received anything but support good advice and encouragement.  They 
>have frequently gone far out their way to help out,  for example the times 
>when Mike R. let me tag along with his class dives because I didn't have a 
>buddy.  Or the hours spent at Ginnie  helping me prepare for my Cave 2 
>class.   I would take advice from either Mike or Joe any time any day, I 
>have never even bothered to ask them what is their deepest dive because 
>it's not relevant.   Having a safe attitude and a bit of common sense are 
>the most important factors.
>Regarding perfect dives & cover up's:Thank goodness that I don't dive with 
>a group that decides it's a good idea to focus on the mistakes that their 
>dive buddy makes, or blame any mishaps on the other person.   Mistakes are 
>made by everyone, they are discussed and we all learn from them, there's 
>no need to publicly disparage anyone about it in a dive report.
>    Once when diving the Hydro, the hook went into a deep hole in the 
> wreck, Mike went in and spent several minutes picking all the fishing 
> line off it and bringing it out.   When we reached the railing, he passed 
> it off to me and I immediately dropped it back down in the the next door 
> cargo hold!  he fixed it again and we left the wreck, can you imagine how 
> stupid I felt?   After the dive the response I got was the comment "hey 
> shit happens sometimes", and then "but did you see how I fixed it, it 
> works better if you do it this way"... I certainly didn't see him get 
> frustrated and knock his own mask off, and I didn't read about it on the 
> internet either!!!
>   I thought dive reports were supposed to be informative and entertaining 
> for the reader, not to catalogue everything that wasn't 100%.
>   Along the same lines, it is very funny how when you respect an 
> individual's right not to publicly discuss their injuries without their 
> permission, you are suddenly the perpetrator of a cover up?
>   Well I am sure that by now you will be thinking about calling me a 
> brown nose or some such rubbish, but I prefer to think of it as being 
> smart enough to find safe dive buddies who know what they are doing, and 
> friends that trust each other with their lives.
>    Mike and Joe sincerely believe you are dangerous to the diving public 
> at large, and in particlular the guys who are just starting out and are 
> not wised up to your antics.  Neither of them would go after you 
> otherwise.  If you want to get them off your case then I suggest you 
> review your public behaviour.
>LL
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