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From: <sadavis@ib*.ne*>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:25:38
To: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: HUMANITY CHECK
It seems like the response about breaking the deco and retrieving another
bottle is 
being left out, and I think here is the only key. You can't really think, you
have 
to just act. To hesitate is to buy the farm, it could be the other way around
too, 
but anything is better than nothing. You could surface grab another bottle and
be 
back below your depth before 3-5 minutes. And if you are going to look, or
help, you 
are going to need more air, not just for yourself !


Scotter
The deeper yah go, 
     the better it feels
Re:
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> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:17:15 -0700
> From: jmpi@CE*.NE*
> To: techdiver@terra.net
> Subject: Re: HUMANITY CHECK

> 
> Rod, 
> That's easy to say as we sit in our warm houses with our families safe. If 
> you were in that position, perhaps what you should do and what you would do 
> are two different things. 
> 
> Would the extra 10-15 minutes it took to get to the surface and get back 
> down put him or her to far in to the brain dead zone? What would your 
> support on the surface be? A bunch of floundering idiots or someone waiting 
> there with an extra rig to put on your back? 
> 
> Question: We all know that different people are affected by o2 tox at 
> different depths and some people can build up a tolerance, and then I would 
> suspect there is the odd  one out there that would not be affected at all. 
> 95%+ of the people would be commiting certain suicide making the hop to 140, 
> however, WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD YOU SAY YOU HAD OF MAKING IT TO THE BOTTOM 
> recovering your mate, and blasting back to the surface to possibly get him 
> or her recesitated and getting both of you into the chamber. 
> 
> Granted the odds are stacked way against you. Would you take the chance of 
> dying if there was a slim chance your mates life would be saved. 
> 
> By the way we both know that this really did happen to some one just
reciently. 
> 
> I personally feel that there are a few people worth dying for on this 
> planet. My wife and kid are two of them.
> 
> 
> 
> >You have to go to the boat and get fresh air to dive. Using your 100% O2 to 
> >dive to 140 means you are not going to be alive to help your soulmate. 
> >Your only reasonable choice is get more air if you intend to be alive at 
> >the bottom to help if possible. It is difficult to see this if your son 
> >or daughter is on the bottom but it's the only other choice besides sure 
> >death trying to effect a rescue.
> >
> >On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, john e. mckenney wrote:
> >
> >> A hypothetical situation for those of you who care to partake:
> >> 
> >> Your making a relatively deep air dive,  140', your wearing a set of
double 
> >> 80's. In addition you've got an additional bottle hung on your belt with
o2 
> >> for your 15 foot hang. The current is about a knot and a half and the temp 
> >> is 12c. Visibility is a whopping 20 feet. Your diving with a family
member, 
> >> wife, son, daughter etc. (pick your soul mate). Both of you are
experienced 
> >> divers and in addition there is another diver along with you, who you
trust 
> >> and care about. After a lenghty bottom time you decide to head up, your 
> >> family member and friend decide to stay for 5 more minutes to get those
last 
> >> pics or yank that last piece of scrap. Their at the anchor line so you 
> >> decide to head up. You make it up to your third stop at 15 feet and 
> >> discover; ah just intime, N2o2 is gone and that full bottle of o2 is
waiting 
> >> to purge your system. Normally you would still have some air left at this 
> >> stage, however you've had to work harder than normal because of the
current. 
> >> Five minutes go by, and you think where the hell are they? You start to
get 
> >> a little worried because you left them 14 minutes ago, your heart rate
rises 
> >> a little, all of a sudden your friend floats up past you, bc inflated, 
> >> unconscious. The surface current has picked up. Your family member is
still 
> >> down there.  It's going to be at least 10 minutes(if everything goes
smooth) 
> >> before you can get back to where you are after surfacing and reloading.
Your 
> >> bottle of 02 has 1800 lbs left it it. What do you do? 
> >> 
> >> 
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