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From: "A.Appleyard" <A.APPLEYARD@fs*.mt*.um*.ac*.uk*>
To: techdiver@terra.net
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:34:19 GMT
Subject: manifolds (was: Re: Are these tanks ok?)
  Marc Dufour <mdufour@CA*.OR*> wrote (Subject: Re: Are these tanks ok?):-
> ... DonT' BothER With a MaNiFoLD, a CHeaTeR BaR iS WaaaaY BeTtEr!!! I JuSt
> GOt My TaNkS At WALL-MARDE, ThEy HaVe K00l PriCes ThIs WeeK!!!

At 12:31 PM 11/4/95 GMT, A.Appleyard wrote:
>  What is a cheater bar?

  Marc Dufour <mdufour@CA*.OR*> replied:-
> I've heard it called a "suicide bar". It makes two independent singles into
> a double, being a bar with two yokes on them and a "normal" tank fitting to
> put your reg onto. It nicely adds TWO O-Rings to your setup without adding
> isolation valves, basically tripling the chances of O-Ring failure for your
> whole shebang...

  When I started scuba diving (in Britain) in the late 1960's, most regulators
were twin-hose, and cylinders were slenderer, and most divers used twin sets,
and what you call a `cheater bar' is what we called a manifold. All manifolds
that I saw were like that. It was a hollow tube, with a regulator-type A-clamp
on each end, and on its middle a connection like the top of a cylinder's
pillar valve (but without on/off valve). If that is not called a manifold now,
what is a manifold sensu strictu nowadays? Sorry to display my ignorance, but
it is a long time since I last got near a twin set, in these days of big fat
high-pressure single cylinders.
  Also in those days backpack shells were not used; the steel cylinders were
strapped straight against the diver's back.
  How easy is it to get stab jackets that can fit twin cylinders?

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