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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:57:16 -0700
To: techdiver@terra.net
From: chris@ab*.co* (Christopher M. Parrett)
Subject: Re: Gas Blending
>Chris writes:
>
>> >This cannot be correct.  When you fill on pressures the volume
>> >of the tank is irrelevant.  Imagine filling two independent tanks
>> >simultaneously from two independent banks of gas.
>> >The pressures in the two are identical.  If you now hook
>> >the two tanks up with a manifold and fill from one bank only
>> >the mixes during the second fill are identical to that of the
>> >first fill if the pressures "track" (and the temperatures
>> >are kept the same).
>> 
>> The basis of our math is MOLE volume based.
>> Thus the true volume of the cylinder is VERY important.
>> But, give or take 1/2 cubic inch, probably won't make a huge differance.
>
>Chris,
>
>Please tell me the true volume of a steel 104 that was hydro'd twice, 
>the first time having a 2.5% expansion, the second time with a 4% 
>expansion, at a fill pressure of 2640 psi. The 2.5% and 4% expansion 
>is well within the DOT limits of 10% each time. 
>
>Next, please tell me what the expansion rates were on each and every 
>tank you own, or tell me how many people know the expansion rates for 
>a set of tanks they own? If I bought a 104 I'm assured it's a used 
>tank. I'm assured if it's current that it's been hydro'd at least 
>twice (once from manufacture, the second to keep it current). If I'm 
>smart I'd hydro it again before buying it to make sure it doesn't 
>fail.
>
>How am I, as joe consumer, supposed to know the expansion rates 
>during all of the hydro's over the tanks life? Or does this not 
>matter?
>
>Ken
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I am not at all certain is there is "way" for you to know this without
measuring the cylinder.
the question is, by what amount do internal volumes actually vary following
a Hydro and or a tumble?



Christopher M. Parrett, President, Abysmal Diving Inc.
Makers of ABYSS, Advanced Dive Planning Software.
6595 Odell Place, Suite G. Boulder CO, 80301
Ph, 303-530-7248, Fx, 303-530-2808
ftp://abysmal.com/users/abysmal http://www.emi.net/gulfstream/abyss/abyss.html

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