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From: CHRISTOPHER RICHARDSON <CRICHARD@fl*.on*.ca*>
Organization: Sir Sandford Fleming College
To: techdiver@terra.net
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 22:11:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: new here
Date sent:      Fri, 20 Oct 95 21:15:53 EDT
To:             techdiver@terra.net
From:           Dave Maynard <superdav@na*.ne*>
Subject:        new here

Hello Gentlemen:
I am new here and relativly new to diving as well.  I was certifyed this
summer and have been making "dive plans" since.  My dive buddy (Open Water I
same as me) here in North Carolina wants to dive the U352 right away.  I
think it's too deep without more certifications and he agrees.  Many wrecks
off of North Carolina are deep.  I've heard you can go inside some, safely,
with the proper certifications.  I also know that proper equipment is
preferred for these types of dives.  
>>Man, I hope your kidding about the U352. How about in a few hundred 
dives? Wreck penetration is never "safe", you can however reduce risk 
to what you consider acceptable with the PROPER TRAINING and 
experience in practicing that training(an often overlooked part). You 
also need the proper equipment, some almost all will agree upon, 
other that all will argue over, this is where proper experience and 
training guides your choices. Certification doesn't mean "qualified" 
nor "safe", something to remember. A recreational wreck diving 
specialty corse will not teach you to dive the Doria or most new 
Jersey wrecks. It will teach you how to swim around a shallow wreck 
avoiding any hazards. It doesn't teach penetration, it discusses it. 
If penetration is your goal seek training     when you have the 
experience and training to benifit from Tech training. Have patience, 
rushing yourself will most likely get you in some trouble. The 
problem with trouble in diving is that it has a tendancy to kill you 
or your buddy. The other problem is when you don't have trouble, 
because then you can mistake luck for skill.
I have been in the market for dive equipment for a while now.  That I get
some of my information from "the net" should not surprise you.  I gather
information from every area I can find it.  Information gatherd from
salesmen is not held in high regard.  Every time I go to a different dive
shop I get diferent information, it gets confusing at times.

I had made a choice after looking at a lot of BC's that a Ziegel twin ranger
would be the best compromise between a recreational BC and one that can be
called upon for tech diving.  I found a dive shop that offerd a good deal on
the Twin Ranger but after going there he told me what I realy needed was a
Dive Rite!  Every time I go to a different shop I get a differnt story.
(tried on a dive rite with twin 80's and boy it felt good)
>>I really wouldn't worry about getting a "Tech" b.c. right now, it 
really is too soon after your openwater to even consider trying a 
tech dive. I'm not saying that you won't be able to in the future but 
right now get yourself a good "Rec" b.c. and use it!Maybe I need one 
BC for tech diving wrecks here in North Carolina and
another when I go South on vacation.   What about regulators........one shop
says............another...and if your gonna use nitrox...
>>In a Basic NITROX cert course which is not "tech" diving, what is 
required for diving NItrox will be covered.>I have too 
much information and not enough sense too use it.>> That is what 
scares me, however you had enough sense to post this message on 
Techdiver" so surely you knew that lots of us are going to jump in 
and try to slow you down. Not because were better than you but 
because we actually care. Even if they call you every possible word 
for stupid:)!!> See ya on the net, Dave
>> Be gentle on him guys, it his first time. In a couple yearsyou 
could be diving with him! --
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