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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 06:02:53 -0700
Subject: Re: The Cavers List - the reason (and welcome back)
To: kens@uf*.ed*, rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*>, techdiver@terra.net
Cc: cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*


On Fri, 20 Oct 1995, "Ken Sallot" <KEN@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*> wrote:
>Rod writes:
>
>> Ken, say explicitly that Dive Rite had no bearing on your actions and 
>> that by misinterpreting your statements, several divers reached the wrong 
>> conclusions and unfairly castegated Dive Rite for something that they did 
>> not do. Your recent explanation sounds whiny and defensive. Admit you made a 
>> mistake and stop this nonsense immediately. Look at what Deutschman did 
>> as a result of your post. Credibility of the list would be well served by 
>> a quick unequivocal public apology from you to Dive Rite about THIS 
>> particular issue that YOU created. Best regards, Rod  
>
>Simply put, fuck off.

     Rod, if you want to get another one going that will make the last
one look tame, keep it up. I will be glad to provide a detailed account
of al of the bullshit Dive Rite, Mark Lenard, and Lamar Hires have pulled
on me and WKPP, as well as a well thought out and meticulous critique of
every piece of gear they make, if you think that would help you to stay
out of things you do not understand.
     The fact is that you have no idea what goes on in the cave diving
community, and if you want to be brought up to speed, I would LOVE to
be the one to do it. These guys (Dive Rite) continue to take a swing at
the hornets nest with a flyswatter, and I am about to come unglued on
them. 
      The other fact is that these guys have threatened me, and my
employer, and they have written "training" memo's trying to discrdit
us, they have tried to discredit us to our sponsors, they continually
badmouth us, especially me, accusing me of "cheating on air", and other
dangerous prcactices, they used to badmouth Lamar English (one of
my former dive partners who made the only decent cave light around, 
now Arnold took his business over) becasue Lamar was their chief 
competitor.
      I can go on and on and really get nasty if you like. The bottom
line is this: there will be no appology because there is private email and
information behind this that you did not see. 
      You will only make matters worse by pursuing this line. You
are forgetting that I have absolutely no line I won't step all the 
way over and back agian. Want to give me a test? - George

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