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From: "A.Appleyard" <A.APPLEYARD@fs*.mt*.um*.ac*.uk*>
To: techdiver@terra.net
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:14:48 BST
Subject: Hans Hass and rebreathers
  J Shepherd <jms@fe*.ed*.ac*.uk*> wrote:-
> Hmm, Hans Hass used a rebreather for a lot of his work, and well it worked
> too. I think there was a conscious decision by sport divers to go for the
> safety aspects of open circuit rigs.

  At the diving exhibition in Birmingham yesterday I saw a video about the
history of diving, which included a clip from an old film that Hans Hass made
during the 1939-1945 war rebreather diving in the Aegean Sea, where he said
that there he once dived to 35 meters (115.5 feet) with an oxygen rebreather
without ill effects!!!!!!!! (I did not mis-hear: the film (which was in
German) had English written subtitles that showed the number clearly, <and> I
clearly heard the German original `dreizig fuenf'.) If he started with bag &
lungs full of ordinary air, that would cause somewhat of a nitrox effect [1],
but still!!! That, plus the amount of times he has oxygen rebreather dived
without ill effects to 50 feet, shows that he must be an extreme physiological
oddity re handling oxidation metabolic byproducts. If I was a diving
biochemist or physiologist, I would much like a tissue sample from him!!
  If that or something could lead to a reliable medication to suppress oxygen
depth (ppO2) poisoning down to say 5 or 6 bars ppO2 and so allow oxygen
rebreather diving to 40 or 50 meters (132 or 165 feet), that would remove a
LOT of complications in designing and using middle-depth diving gear.

  [1] A friend of mine once drove round the coast of Scotland sea diving with
a Seibe Gorman Salvus 30-40 mins oxygen rebreather, taking Protosorb with him
and getting oxygen from garages' welding tanks. He stuck to valid oxygen depth
usually, but he said that once he successfully ventured 60 feet by filling his
bag & lungs with air first. WARNING: trying that unless you are VERY careful
(including avoiding underwater activity that may distract you from keeping
track of what you are breathing) is liable to result in you breathing the gas
down to nitrogen only and a quick end, as the absorbent stops a CO2 build-up
from raising an alarm. The Salvus has no oxygen steady flow; you have to let
more oxygen into circuit yourself each time.

> 	On a sideline, is it true that the CIS-LUNAR unit was designed
> with astronautical applications in mind?

  `cis-lunaris' is Latin for `on this side of the moon'. The CIS part is not
initials. He started by wanting to design a spacesuit.

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